View Full Version : Quatro 15 vs. DVC 15
04-15-2006, 03:34 AM
I am considering building a sealed subwoofer and am considering these two woofers. It would be primarily used for music and some home theater use. Can anyone say if one sounds better than the other? I like how the quatro works well in a smaller cabinet and is cheaper. Is there reason to get the DVC instead? Any other drivers I should consider?
The DVC is higher in sensitivity (more output per watt), higher xmax (lower distortion for same level of output, and higher SPL in the long run).
I would personally get the DVC over the quatro (and have), but if money is an issue, then I guess the quatro is the choice for you. The DVC is a better sub, which is why it costs more.
Remember, the smaller the box, the higher the F3. I like to run dual 15" DVCs in 3.5cuft stuffed sealed boxes with a Linkwitz Transform bumping the lower end even more. So, you know where I am coming from.
04-15-2006, 03:07 PM
and how much box can you get away with?
04-15-2006, 03:54 PM
If your room isn't that big, you could get the 12" DVC. Smaller subs sound better for music. A 12" will sound good for music and HT. If you have a big room though, then a 15" is good.
04-15-2006, 05:13 PM
> and how much box can you get away with?
I am going to be moving so I dont know the size of the room, probably anywhere from the average bedroom size to living room size if that helps. I guess the box can be as big as it needs to be if it will make it sound better. Im thinking a 12 inch will work better.
04-15-2006, 05:55 PM
> Smaller subs sound better
> for music.
I am afraid I don't quite understand this point here. Most music, (classical, jazz, pop, rock, techno) benefits from flat low extended bass response. And in my experience a good 15" is more effortless, and better at this than a good 12".
A 12" is more convenient, less expensive, and usually requires a smaller cabinet... but better for music... I don't know about that.
04-15-2006, 10:44 PM
The thing behind "smaller is better for music" is that most "smaller" subs are sealed. You don't see a lot of big sealed subs out there. And, frankly, for pop, rock or techno, I think I prefer ported, tuned a little highish, or a smaller box sealed (higher q). For jazz, classical or acoustic, I really prefer larger sealed (lower q), or ported tuned below fs...
> Hey shadow,
> I am afraid I don't quite understand this
> point here. Most music, (classical, jazz,
> pop, rock, techno) benefits from flat low
> extended bass response. And in my experience
> a good 15" is more effortless, and
> better at this than a good 12".
> A 12" is more convenient, less
> expensive, and usually requires a smaller
> cabinet... but better for music... I don't
> know about that.
04-16-2006, 04:01 AM
Smaller sub more musical? In your opinion maybe but I gotta disagree. I've ran one of my old RatShak 18 inchers in a ported sonotube and it was very musical. Port it below resonance and the response mimics a sealed box. Big band tunes absolutely gets things hopping. Not a ton of excursion but with that much cone area plus a 92dB sensitivity, you don't need it. On a side note, I've not had experience with anything cleaner than my 15" IB sub. Music is a joy to listen to with those monsters doing their job.
04-16-2006, 03:11 PM
Really? Bigger subs are better for music? I always thought smaller subs were better for that because the bass sounded tighter where a 15" sub would be good for the low rumbles most action movies have. Oh well. Just ignore me then. I don't actually know because I don't have other different size subs to compare but that's what I've read before, that smaller subs have more natural sounding bass for music.
04-17-2006, 04:32 AM
It all has to do with the design of the particular sub in question. But mostly small subs are considered to be more accurate. Thats why we dont see any or many servo controled 10 or 8 inch subs. This is just common sense. Its all about trade offs.
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> ... Big band tunes absolutely gets things hopping...
Hey Shawn, you don't strike me as a "big band" kind of man! Hey, have you heard Diane Schuur's album, "Diane Schuur and the Count Basie Orchestra?" I've only heard two cuts on some Various Artists CDs, and they sound awesome. I have to get that album sometime. Excellent bass, and of course, Diane Schuur's excellent voice.
04-18-2006, 10:33 PM
I used to do a Big Band and swing show at my college's radio station. I did it for kicks and giggles one Sunday morning while I was waiting for my buddy to come in for his Sunday jazz show. After that first one I just kept on doing it. It was a big departure from the death metal, industrial and alternative stuff I did for my other shows and executive staff duties. I got some of the oddest looks from people who popped their head into the studio only to see me hung over from the night before trying to cue up the vinyl. It really was a nice way to relax and get ready for a loooong day of studying.
I've heard bits and pieces and parts of that album but haven't sat down for a quality listening session. I love Basie to begin with so it was pretty much a slam dunk in my eyes (or ears) that it would kick some serious sonic ****.
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