considering Cinderellas

[Paul Carmody]

There's something subtly mystifying about Wayne W's Cinderella speakers. The more I look at it, the more it says to me, "Build me! Build me!" They really seem to fit the bill for my next project.

Basic demands of this project:
+must be a floorstander
+must be full-range enough to get down into the 30 Hz region (doesn't have to go BOOM, just has to play the notes)
+Used 95% of the time for 2-channel music (rock, electronic, jazz, mostly)
+Would like to spend less than $400 for electronics

I have no idea about the frequency response of the Cinderellas, or even how they really sound. Since I listen to music at moderate-to-soft levels, I'm far more concerned with imaging and soundstage than dB. What drew me into the project was that they ARE towers, and they look totally cool! I really, really like the tall, slender top with the wide base--helps a lot with stability. They also don't appear to be ungodly heavy, like some floorstanders can get! (They do appear to have a few wonky angles to them, which poses a new woodworking challenge to me; but hey, why not live on the edge, and learn some new tricks?)

So please, share opinions--especially anyone who has actually heard the speakers, or who knows of reasonable alternatives.

Thanks!
Paul

[Pete Schumacher ®]

> There's something subtly mystifying about
> Wayne W's Cinderella speakers. The more I
> look at it, the more it says to me,
> "Build me! Build me!" They really
> seem to fit the bill for my next project.

> Basic demands of this project:
> +must be a floorstander
> +must be full-range enough to get down into
> the 30 Hz region (doesn't have to go BOOM,
> just has to play the notes)
> +Used 95% of the time for 2-channel music
> (rock, electronic, jazz, mostly)
> +Would like to spend less than $400 for
> electronics

> I have no idea about the frequency response
> of the Cinderellas, or even how they really
> sound. Since I listen to music at
> moderate-to-soft levels, I'm far more
> concerned with imaging and soundstage than
> dB. What drew me into the project was that
> they ARE towers, and they look totally cool!
> I really, really like the tall, slender top
> with the wide base--helps a lot with
> stability. They also don't appear to be
> ungodly heavy, like some floorstanders can
> get! (They do appear to have a few wonky
> angles to them, which poses a new
> woodworking challenge to me; but hey, why
> not live on the edge, and learn some new
> tricks?)

> So please, share opinions--especially anyone
> who has actually heard the speakers, or who
> knows of reasonable alternatives.

> Thanks!
> Paul

They sound wonderful. They have a smooth response up to 20KHz and sounded plenty strong to me on the low end with the test tracks that were used in Iowa. I don't know how you could go wrong.

Since you're using them for moderate listening levels, you should be fine.

[curt_c]

http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/Cinderellafr.gif


> There's something subtly mystifying about
> Wayne W's Cinderella speakers. The more I
> look at it, the more it says to me,
> "Build me! Build me!" They really
> seem to fit the bill for my next project.

Not to worry, this is a sublimial message script I included on my site.

I’ve heard them quite often, and they never cease amaze me how such inexpensive components can sound so good. They image very well due to the narrow baffle and throw out a nice soundstage, even though the woofer is mounted low. They are very clean sounding, and handle vocals and musical transients well. -All those small TB subs don’t hold a candle to the modest DC200 for bass extension. In it’s Cinderella iteration, plan on an f3 in the mid 30’s and an f10 in the mid 20’s, and max SPL’s around 102 dB.

Wayne built this as a ‘2box’ design, so the woofer cab is built separate from the mid/tweeter cab, and subsequently attached before the veneer was applied. This made for a much simpler construction.

The crossover is a bit busy, as it is a 3.5 way topography, with the outside two B3’s bolstering the lower midrange and minimizing their excursion for a given SPL, hopefully reducing distortion as a consequence. In spite of the intentional slight BBC dip, they sound very well balanced. Wayne and I listen to a lot of different music genera, and I suspect these will provide acceptable performance for you as well.

C

[christianb]

Do you have a link to the write-up?

Thanks!

[curt_c]

Provided Link: The Cinderella's (http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/Cinderella.html)

[Paul Carmody]

I have a [hopefully] quick question about the crossovers on these. With the HiVi drivers, why are they wired that way? are they out of phase with one another? What's up with that? ;-)

I have total faith in you that you know what you are doing... I'm just looking to learn some new things.

Thanks very much!
Paul

[curt_c]

http://www.geocities.com/cc00541/Cinderellaxover.GIF


The individual pairs of B3N's are connected in series to keep the impedance up. All drivers with the exception of the woofer are connected in phase.

C

[Paul Carmody]