Wow, must be nice...

[Steve H.]

Provided Link: Amazing music room (http://knuttz.net/hosted_pages/Amazing-Music-Room-20070117)


Checkout this listening room! I could do without the wire 'holders' but Wow!

Steve

[bmaupin]

how on those black speakers they are time-aligned except for the super-tweeter ribbon. Seems that because of the short wavelength at high frequencies that the the ST will have the largest phase error from any offset. I guess that could be corrected for. ??

[shawn_a]

Before my dogs would rip the sh@% out of that wiring scheme. Ole Beau Beau ain't the most graceful thing to begin with. All those fancy-schmancy doodads holding the cables off the floor are just asking to be tripped over.

I wonder if he has some Claymore anti-personnel mines rigged to take care of those who manage to get snared in the mess.

shawn

[brianp]

Might get kinda echoey with all those hard smooth surfaces. Even a carpet, a couple of overstuffed chairs and some shelves of books on the sidewalls would probably improve the sound a lot.

[bogie]

Complete crap.

I don't see a SINGLE Box'o'Rox anywhere in the room.

[cole]

THIS room sounds nice.

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[cole]

a magic clock. Not a wood block in sight. What gives?

[d_edwards]

That is live end dead end all the way.

I know the 8ft wide 9ft high diffuser in the front is really hard to see. ???

Trust me you want everything in that room, that system has very little wasted even I would want to keep $30,000 speaker cables off the floor.

[rened]

you know, I Really, and I do mean REALLY want to know what you have to do for a living where you afford to blow that kind of money on a listening room! I'm just stunned at some of these setups I've been seeing lately.

I have a listening room, It's called sitting in my kitchen/dining room/living room listening to music while the wife's not home.

or earphones!..my moble audio room, this way I can listen in style and comfort on the way to work, why I try to ignore the man sitting beside me picking his nose on the bus.

I'm not bitter, a little jelous, not bitter *grin*

Any ways, I'd like the room better if it was a little darker wood ;)

Rene

> Checkout this listening room! I could do
> without the wire 'holders' but Wow!

> Steve

[mikebw]

I mean, either to fight off theives or to shoot himself when he realizes how much money he has spent.

> Checkout this listening room! I could do
> without the wire 'holders' but Wow!

> Steve

[killerkowalczyk]

Look whos placing there speakers further apart!!! I thought they were placed by the "CARDAS" method or whatever you said before. Im just jerkin your chain, but what made you seperate them more?

BTW how did you make your side panels, what kind of improvement did you notice with all that room treatment?

> THIS room sounds nice.

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[natediggidy]

> ...or to shoot himself when he realizes how
> much money he has spent.

I'm sure he knows, right down to the last nickel :) .

[cole]

Blah,blah, blah. The Cardas method. Im an idiot.
Killa. You were right. The soundstage needed more room to breath. Sure, the Cardas method can tame down a few room modes but its a give and take world. Im gonna pull them in just a tad. Strangely, I think I will end up with one speaker toed in a bit and the other straight. I think my head is lop sided or one ear is bigger than the other. I dont know.
Im convinced that crappy speakers in a treated room can sound better than good speaks in a non-treated room. Lucky for us, we can have the best of both worlds on this issue but setting up speakers in itself is another beast to wrestle. Throwing a sub in as well multipies the problems.
Im finding that no method is without its own disadvantages when you consider ALL the factors that are involved in creating great sound in a room.
I imagine years from now me and this beast will continue to wrestle for ground but I enjoy wrestling this monster so I'll continue to learn its biological make-up untill the day I become an effective warrior against the beast. Then, I too will be known as "Killa", or maybe just a guy with alittle knowledge on creating a decent sounding space.
Thanks for the tip,Killa. Even if I didnt put it into practice for a few months:)

[killerkowalczyk]

Your one ear could very well be more sensitive than the other. Did you check to make sure that the speakers are the exact same height, are they both perfectly level, equal spacing from walls. That could make a difference too. I really realllllyyyyyy need to treat my room. When I stand anywhere in my room especially in the middle, if I clap my hands I get such a terrible twangy/pangy noise/echo. Im thinking 3-4 side panels per side like what you have would help this emensely, I am also going to place 2 panels on the wall behind the speakers and 2 panels way down the room infront of the speakers, and possibly some type of bass trap in the corners between the speakers (I was thinking stuffed sonotube drilled with holes).

> Blah,blah, blah. The Cardas method. Im an
> idiot.
> Killa. You were right. The soundstage needed
> more room to breath. Sure, the Cardas method
> can tame down a few room modes but its a
> give and take world. Im gonna pull them in
> just a tad. Strangely, I think I will end up
> with one speaker toed in a bit and the other
> straight. I think my head is lop sided or
> one ear is bigger than the other. I dont
> know.
> Im convinced that crappy speakers in a
> treated room can sound better than good
> speaks in a non-treated room. Lucky for us,
> we can have the best of both worlds on this
> issue but setting up speakers in itself is
> another beast to wrestle. Throwing a sub in
> as well multipies the problems.
> Im finding that no method is without its own
> disadvantages when you consider ALL the
> factors that are involved in creating great
> sound in a room.
> I imagine years from now me and this beast
> will continue to wrestle for ground but I
> enjoy wrestling this monster so I'll
> continue to learn its biological make-up
> untill the day I become an effective warrior
> against the beast. Then, I too will be known
> as "Killa", or maybe just a guy
> with alittle knowledge on creating a decent
> sounding space.
> Thanks for the tip,Killa. Even if I didnt
> put it into practice for a few months:)

[cole]

when we got this house was clap my hands in the room. Flutter everywhere. All the walls are cement and extremely reflective for most frequencies. The sound was horrible. Im sure, very closely to what your hearing when you clap your hands in your room. Mid Hi absorbers placed where the ceiling meets the walls is the most effective way to tame the flutter. The space between the absorber and the two ajoining surfaces helps to make the absorber even more effective. The Mid Hi absorbers on the side walls relate more closely to the sound coming from the speakers.
On the topic of my lop sidedness, evrything is equadistant. If I ajust my stereo balance either way just 1 increment, I can tell. The difference doesnt appear to be that of a level difference but one, more of a seaming issue between the 2 speakers. Its fairly minute or in my head.

[mattmacbeth]

I think that's mike lavigne's setup. IIRC it's a small out building - designed from the ground up by a high-end acoustic firm (Rives?).

He posts on AVS Forum. From what I've read, that room is the real thing (seriously)!

[d_edwards]

Your flourescent light diffuser, which is likely rattling away on the oneside and not the other. Is likely your perceived image issue.

This will pull the image to oneside or distort your perception, Pictures with glass in wooden frames can also be an issue, also treating your ceiling with some more skylines will be a huge help too.

[cole]

> Your flourescent light diffuser, which is
> likely rattling away on the oneside and not
> the other. Is likely your perceived image
> issue.

> This will pull the image to oneside or
> distort your perception,

Ive been around my room checking for buzzing ever since I got my sub running again. I never did check the light diffusor but I have replaced the lights and its just lying in there. Im sure there is some buzzing coming from it. WOW, buzzing is annoying but I never would have thought that it could shift the percieved imaging. That is what Im hearind. Thanks,D. One day closer. Very valuble information.
cole