Carver Cinema Ribbons

[Steve Henry]

Provided Link: Sunfire Cinema Ribbon (http://www.sunfire.com/CR.htm)


I got a chance to hear these at a high end retailer & was very impressed - especially the small foot print - but the cost !! . So I'm thinking a BG Neo 8 PDR, but need advice on the 4 1/2 woofs on each side. Also any advice on modeling crossovers for side-firing woofs would be appreciated.

[thomasw]

Provided Link: http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=26007


Here's a thread where this speaker and making a clone using the Neo8 is being discussed.

[Steve Henry]

> Here's a thread where this speaker and
> making a clone using the Neo8 is being
> discussed.

ThomasW - Thanks for the link.

Steve

[bobgroger]

Provided Link: Sunfire didn't pay much for these... (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=275-085)


Gee, this looks, well, exactly like the Sunfire driver....

<A HREF="http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=275-085">http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=275-085</A>

> Here's a thread where this speaker and
> making a clone using the Neo8 is being
> discussed.

[zach_t]

Are those really the P2TC's? I ran across this in a mag. the other day and thought that they were.

Any insight to how these work speakers? You are listening to the 2 side firing drivers 90º off-axis and the X-Over to the P2TC seems way too low (1.2 kHz).

I am confused by this statement:

<i>"Ribbon tweeter with five feet of sound radiating area folded into less than six inches. Its geometry prevents distortion created by floor and ceiling bounce - and correctly disperses rear channel surround sound. "</i>

Even if you did fold 5-feet of ribbon into six inches, the result would be six iches of radiating area, correct?

[Wolf]

Are those really the P2TC's? I ran across this in a mag. the other day and thought that they were.

Any insight to how these work speakers? You are listening to the 2 side firing drivers 90º off-axis and the X-Over to the P2TC seems way too low (1.2 kHz).

I am confused by this statement:

<i>"Ribbon tweeter with five feet of sound radiating area folded into less than six inches. Its geometry prevents distortion created by floor and ceiling bounce - and correctly disperses rear channel surround sound. "</i>

Even if you did fold 5-feet of ribbon into six inches, the result would be six iches of radiating area, correct?

That is what I arrived at. I also think that they sound pretty accurate! I don't know why people poo-poo them so much, as they do sound pretty good when implemented correctly.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/wolf_teeth_speaker/2i/2iXoverRev1.jpg

I will also say this:
There are several versions of this planar, all made by Silver Flute (www.yindi.com), and are not the same as the HiVi offerings.

There is the PT2-A/B/C, which the first is the same as the YAG-20-1. The B is modified and "improved", with a "flatter FR" (still not exceptionally flat) and more power handling. The C was an attempt to make them lower distortion drivers, and did a *little*, but not a lot.

Silver Flute YAG-20-1/YAG-20-2; the PT2-A and a metal-faced version.

The old (formerly) Stryke/AE ribbons were the original PT2-A/YAG-20-1.

Here's the guts of one (I had a DOA):
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/wolf_teeth_speaker/2i/100_3729.jpg

These turned lots of heads at Dayton 08 this summer, and I think sound exceptional. They are *not* as good as my Scandivifias, but still decent nonetheless.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b117/wolf_teeth_speaker/2i/100_3743.jpg
Later,
Wolf