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dlneubec
03-31-2008, 04:05 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/dlneubec/SoundRounds/DSCF0566.jpg


I finally have an update on this project!

I have a pair built and up and running (see the following pics). The final crossover points are around 400 Hz and 3700 Hz. I've only had a few short bit of auditioning, but they appear to exceed my expectations when I first started to pencil out this design. It's hard to believe there is under $300 in drivers and crossover parts to the pair. For music only, they rival and may even better my HOSS omni's, which have around $700 in crossover parts and drivers, though the SoundRounds are a couple db's less sensitive and can't be pushed as hard. The upper bass and midrange is more clear than any speaker I've built and compete with the best I've heard. The treble is a bit splashier with the Aura NT1 than the more subdued RS28's in the HOSS, though I'm sure the RS28's are more accurate and lower distorion, especially at high output levels. The bass seems very solid, deep and clean, with much more output than one would expect from a single RS225, though maybe the slot port loading at the floor level and boundary reinforcement from the floor have something to do with that. There is certainly no lack for bass, which is modelled with an F3 of round 31hz or so, IIRC.

Still, just for kicks, I set them up to cross over to the stereo subs you see in the pic at 60hz. The subs are sealed, but with active LT circuits (designed and built by John K. for my NaO Mini's) to extend the low end and the plate amp crossovers were set to 50 Hz. All I can say is WOW, what a great combination that made. For those who say you don't need a sub for music with 3way speakers, I'd have to argue with you now and suggest that maybe you haven't heard a well blended implementation.

Clearly they are unfinished. I have some waterfall Bubinga veneer to add to the mdf parts, but i want to wait to do that until a bit warmer weather, maybe about May. I was going to paint the pvc tubing a dark blue or dark burgundy to match the decor, but both my wife and I think they might look very nice left as natural pvc white. The PVC is sanded with 180 grit, so they take on a sort of soft, almost suede material appearance (you can't really see this in the pics). The bubinga will darken them up overall significantly as it is and will hopefull add a nice contrast and richness to the look. I will probably use a linseed oil on the solid maple portions to bring out its colors and richness.

dlneubec
03-31-2008, 04:06 PM
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/dlneubec/SoundRounds/DSCF0567.jpg

onmyway
03-31-2008, 04:16 PM
AWESOME!!! Any chance that you'll be posting somewhere the crossovers and general plans? I'm quite curious. I love out of the norm designs... did i mention AWESOME!

dlneubec
03-31-2008, 04:24 PM
Provided Link: SoundRounds @ HTGuide.com (http://htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=28906)


> AWESOME!!! Any chance that you'll be posting
> somewhere the crossovers and general plans?
> I'm quite curious. I love out of the norm
> designs... did i mention AWESOME!

Thanks! I will eventually be posting some plans and crossovers on this forum. The plans have evolved a bit from what I started with and I probably won't update them, but they can get you pretty close. I also have a thread over at HTGuide on them, where I will also post these things. It is below.

Dan

mike1234
03-31-2008, 04:28 PM
...so I can see the pics. (blocked here)

Soupy
03-31-2008, 04:58 PM
> AWESOME!!! Any chance that you'll be posting
> somewhere the crossovers and general plans?
> I'm quite curious. I love out of the norm
> designs... did i mention AWESOME!

I'd almost forgotten about these, it's been awhile. I'm a sucker for the unusual as well and constantly messing with 'I wonder if ...' .

Happy to hear they turned out sounding good and they are attractive in my mind as well.

Nice work.

Soupy

shawn_a
03-31-2008, 05:20 PM
Are you going to be able to make it to my neck of the woods in, yikes, FOUR WEEKS??? I hope to hear those. They will probably do quite well in the mid class.

shawn

Adrian
03-31-2008, 05:25 PM
This might even make Andy a wee bit envious. Does the mounting of the mids make them omnidirectional? Same for the tweets?

Nice job. I agree Linseed oil is about the only thing that should go on maple, IMHO.

Adrian

dlneubec
03-31-2008, 06:57 PM
> Are you going to be able to make it to my
> neck of the woods in, yikes, FOUR WEEKS??? I
> hope to hear those. They will probably do
> quite well in the mid class.

> shawn

Of course I and they will be there. Plus I have another project that I'm working on trying to get ready for Richmond, but I'm not saying anymore, yet.

Dan

dlneubec
03-31-2008, 07:06 PM
> This might even make Andy a wee bit envious.
> Does the mounting of the mids make them
> omnidirectional? Same for the tweets?

> Nice job. I agree Linseed oil is about the
> only thing that should go on maple, IMHO.

> Adrian

Thanks.

The mids are omnidirectional in this orientation. The tweeter starts omnidirectional, but eventually transitions to directional as the wavelengths get shorter. However, due to very little baffle, it is much higher up in frequency where this occurs than with traditional baffle mount.

Dan

Paul K.
03-31-2008, 07:09 PM
especially when I know what they are and how neat/unusual they are!
Paul

> Of course I and they will be there. Plus I
> have another project that I'm working on
> trying to get ready for Richmond, but I'm
> not saying anymore, yet.

> Dan

Pete Schumacher ®
03-31-2008, 07:25 PM
Can't wait to see the amazing Neubecker finish on those.

Pete Schumacher ®
03-31-2008, 07:26 PM

dlneubec
03-31-2008, 07:35 PM
> Can't wait to see the amazing Neubecker
> finish on those.

Hey Pete,

You'll probably have to come to Iowa to see that. I have my hands full with the other "project" and probably won't get any more done toward the finish on the SoundRounds before the Richmond event. :-(

Pete Schumacher ®
03-31-2008, 07:48 PM
> Hey Pete,

> You'll probably have to come to Iowa to see
> that. I have my hands full with the other
> "project" and probably won't get
> any more done toward the finish on the
> SoundRounds before the Richmond event. :-(

I know the time required to get the finish you are known for, and there's just not really enough time before Richmond. Still, can't wait for the pics!

Wolf
04-01-2008, 12:03 AM
I hope they sound better/as good as the one did up here.
See you in a few weeks....
Wolf

onmyway
04-04-2008, 03:04 PM
Very awesome! I've been checking out your posts and designs on HTGuide forums and have been trying to post on their but for some reason it says i don't have access to do that... I dunno. Anyways... I've decided I'd like to try and recreate your design. As long as that is alright with you. Will you be posting your latest crossover and some slightly more detailed plans (height, volume, distance between mids, etc) any time soon? Thanks for you time!