more bsc for za5.3

[killa]

I would like to know what i would need to change to add more bsc to the zaph 3.5 kit. Mids and highs are too bright in my room.

[Pete Schumacher ®]

I would like to know what i would need to change to add more bsc to the zaph 3.5 kit. Mids and highs are too bright in my room.

Increase the woofer inductor value some, while padding the tweeter.

[killa]

Thanks. I should have thought of that. I was overthinking it. Thought it might take a reworked xo but i now realise that the xo is fairly simple.

[Pete Schumacher ®]

The best option is to add a woofer to the setup, to fill in for baffle step, instead of robbing system sensitivity. ;)

[killa]

I know but then id have a .5 or 3 way depending on what people decide to call it today.:rolleyes:

[killa]

I do have the gear to bi amp i just need the woofers. Stereo bass just sounds so much better to me.

[Pete Schumacher ®]

I know but then id have a .5 or 3 way depending on what people decide to call it today.:rolleyes:

Well, you could call it a "sub" that has a bit higher cutoff frequency than most.

I'm looking forward to hearing a true 3-way using those components for the TM portion of a TMW.

[killa]

Well, you could call it a "sub" that has a bit higher cutoff frequency than most.

I'm looking forward to hearing a true 3-way using those components for the TM portion of a TMW.

I have been thinking the same thing except my idea is probably smaller than what you would build. I was thinking about a hivi m8 for the woofer in a medium size 3 way

[Pete Schumacher ®]

I have been thinking the same thing except my idea is probably smaller than what you would build. I was thinking about a hivi m8 for the woofer in a medium size 3 way

I was thinking along the same lines. 8" woofer crossed around 400Hz.

[killa]

Would be nice to see a smaller 3way project. Not that many around. I always liked that 3way sound. To bad they are so rare these days (darn women and sissy men):mad: jk.

[Pete Schumacher ®]

Would be nice to see a smaller 3way project. Not that many around. I always liked that 3way sound. To bad they are so rare these days (darn women and sissy men):mad: jk.

Even a 3-way using a 7" woofer, Zaph's mid and tweet would be an improvement, without being huge either. There's always something to be gained by offloading the large excursion duties to a dedicated driver. The RS180-4 and those two would all fit in a 1cf cabinet.

I'm with you on the sissification of American society. They canceled an NFL game because of snow. :eek: Can you believe it? :eek:

Even the NFL is now run by a bunch of wusses.

[killa]

Almost sounds like someones planning something. Any recommendations on 8 in. woofers?

[benchtester]

Almost sounds like someones planning something. Any recommendations on 8 in. woofers?

The RS225-8 would certainly be on the short list. It has the sensitivity, bass extension, price and cosmetics. Too bad one can't get the ZA14 and RS225 in matching colors.


I do find the new spec sheet surprising, I remember that the bass extension modeled (and brief prototype listening) much better that what is shown:
http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/295-356s.pdf

A 1 c.f. cabinet would be more than enough for the ZA14 and the RS228; even a 3/4 c.f. would work with careful splitting of the space.

[killa]

The RS225-8 would certainly be on the short list. It has the sensitivity, bass extension, price and cosmetics. Too bad one can't get the ZA14 and RS225 in matching colors.


I do find the new spec sheet surprising, I remember that the bass extension modeled (and brief prototype listening) much better that what is shown:
http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/295-356s.pdf

A 1 c.f. cabinet would be more than enough for the ZA14 and the RS228; even a 3/4 c.f. would work with careful splitting of the space.

I knew the rs would be a good option but the color mismatch. It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't look like the same family of drivers.

[Pete Schumacher ®]

This would be a nice match.

https://www.madisound.com/store/images/madisound/product/H1208.jpg (https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=149&products_id=821)

For this.
https://www.madisound.com/store/images/ZA14W08-v2.png (https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=186&products_id=8643)

I guess, if you really wanted to, you could paint the ZA phase plug to match the L22.

Then, there's the Fountek FW168 woofer.
https://www.madisound.com/store/images/fw168.jpg (https://www.madisound.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=132&products_id=8492)

[jeff_free69]

The RS225-8 would certainly be on the short list. It has the sensitivity, bass extension, price and cosmetics. ...I do find the new spec sheet surprising, I remember that the bass extension modeled (and brief prototype listening) much better that what is shown:
http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/295-356s.pdf

A 1 c.f. cabinet would be more than enough for the ZA14 and the RS228; even a 3/4 c.f. would work with careful splitting of the space.

If you're saying the graph on the spec sheet isn't doing it justice, i have to agree. I have one in a 1.4 cft tower and it really doesn't need a sub for music. It models pretty flat to about 40 Hz. (-3 db @33Hz)

In a 1 cft it models pretty flat to 50 (-3 db @ 39 ). In fact I'm debating if I can shoehorn one into the PE 1 cft for a very similar 3 way project. ONly problem is the flange is so big - it measures 8 3/4" and the PE box is 9 " W ( I may have to settle for the RS180 )

[killa]

The new da215-8 models nice in a 1 to 1.5 cu. ft. box according to pe specs. Has anyone measured these yet? A little more sensitivity would be nice though.