Anyone know a good build for...

[cold21blooded]

a set of peerless xls 8" woofers and a set of peerless HDS 831735.. I bought a set to put in my car but my engine blew so i might as well use them for something.. Anyone got any ideas on a build for them or know of any

[Chris Roemer]

a set of peerless xls 8" woofers and a set of peerless HDS 831735.. I bought a set to put in my car but my engine blew so i might as well use them for something.. Anyone got any ideas on a build for them or know of any

Aren't the xls series subs? Anyway, I've got F/Z files for the 831735. Looks like it would do mid 30s in about one vented cu. ft. What tweeter?

Chris

[LouC]

Here's one for the 831375 PeeDei (http://www.lonesaguaro.com/speakers/Peer28/PeeDei.html)

[Chris Roemer]

Here's one for the 831375 PeeDei (http://www.lonesaguaro.com/speakers/Peer28/PeeDei.html)

I do that too.

[Wolf]

Aren't the xls series subs? Anyway, I've got F/Z files for the 831735. Looks like it would do mid 30s in about one vented cu. ft. What tweeter?

Chris

I bet the 8" is the SLS, not the XLS. There was an 8" XLS at one time, but it's NLA, and was only briefly offered, IIRC.

Later,
Wolf

[cold21blooded]

It is the peerless 8 xls 830491 for sure.. Here is the link of the specs

www.d-s-t.com.au/data/Peerless/830491.pdf

I don't know which tweeter to use or where to cross them at.. I was wondering if anyone has used them for a build or has heard of any.. If not it looks like I'm gonna build my own 3-way speaker


EDIT:

Got a picture of them.. They arent that rare in the car audio.. These were called one of the best midbass' ever made


https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d9e2f7d673&view=att&th=134d9de50a991b72&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1390941421003866112-1&zw

[cold21blooded]

i was thinking about going with these choices of tweeter...

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=275-140

or

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=277-112

I think im gonna do each woofer sealed in its own chamber.. the 8" crossed at 400 the HDS at 3000 and the tweeter covering the rest

[Mark65]

I've got a truly radical, WAY out there idea....FIX YOUR CAR!!!!:eek:


Then, maybe, think about speakers......:rolleyes:



Mark

[cold21blooded]

I've got a truly radical, WAY out there idea....FIX YOUR CAR!!!!:eek:


Then, maybe, think about speakers......:rolleyes:



Mark


Trust me the car is getting fixed lol

Its just that the 8's are gonna need fiberglass kickpods to go in the car and i dont know if i want to build them

[Pete Schumacher ®]

Those 8" woofs, from the specs, would make dynamite woofers for a 3-way tower, with the 831735 doing mid duty, and crossing to a waveguide loaded RS28F at 1KHz.

[cold21blooded]

Those 8" woofs, from the specs, would make dynamite woofers for a 3-way tower, with the 831735 doing mid duty, and crossing to a waveguide loaded RS28F at 1KHz.


Thanks for the advice.. Thats what i was think about going with but im still very new to building speakers so sorry for the dumb questions lol What exactly does waveguide loaded mean

[Pete Schumacher ®]

What exactly does waveguide loaded mean

This is a waveguide loaded dome tweeter.

Ed Rosenquist will cut you a baffle for your tower that will include this very nice waveguide and the woofer holes. RS28 just screws to the back and allows a very easy 1000Hz crossover.

The bottom picture is a couple baffles Ed cut for some DIY'ers a couple weeks back.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/pete_schumacher/Speaker%20projects/Byzy%20Mini/Aurora2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/pete_schumacher/Speaker%20projects/Waveguide%20Mania/waveguidebaffles.jpg

[cold21blooded]

This is a waveguide loaded dome tweeter.

Ed Rosenquist will cut you a baffle for your tower that will include this very nice waveguide and the woofer holes. RS28 just screws to the back and allows a very easy 1000Hz crossover.

The bottom picture is a couple baffles Ed cut for some DIY'ers a couple weeks back.


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/pete_schumacher/Speaker%20projects/Byzy%20Mini/Aurora2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/pete_schumacher/Speaker%20projects/Waveguide%20Mania/waveguidebaffles.jpg





Those look great now all i need is a box design and a xover lol

[czag]

It is the peerless 8 xls 830491 for sure.. Here is the link of the specs

www.d-s-t.com.au/data/Peerless/830491.pdf

I don't know which tweeter to use or where to cross them at.. I was wondering if anyone has used them for a build or has heard of any.. If not it looks like I'm gonna build my own 3-way speaker


EDIT:

Got a picture of them.. They arent that rare in the car audio.. These were called one of the best midbass' ever made


https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=d9e2f7d673&view=att&th=134d9de50a991b72&attid=0.1&disp=thd&realattid=1390941421003866112-1&zw

I've got a couple pair also. The do have 830491 as the part# but the say HDS right below it. I believe these are all somewhat of a cross between the XLS and the HDS series. Probably the same shorting rings as the HDS but the extended xmax of the XLS. That's my guess anyway.

Chris

[chadam44]

I did a 3 way build with those two woofers along with the Vifa XT25SC90-04 tweeters. I dont remember how I did the crossover off the top of my head, but to me they sound very clean highs and mids and the low end is powerful. I set out to build somehing that had mids and highs similar to a Polk LSi bookshelf and I think these came out pretty well matching up to the mids/highs, but have so much more bass that the comparison stops there. Once I get back to my personal laptop, I can post more to give an idea of cabinet size and crossover design.

[cold21blooded]

I did a 3 way build with those two woofers along with the Vifa XT25SC90-04 tweeters. I dont remember how I did the crossover off the top of my head, but to me they sound very clean highs and mids and the low end is powerful. I set out to build somehing that had mids and highs similar to a Polk LSi bookshelf and I think these came out pretty well matching up to the mids/highs, but have so much more bass that the comparison stops there. Once I get back to my personal laptop, I can post more to give an idea of cabinet size and crossover design.

That would be great if you could give me some info on that build

[chadam44]

The box I used was kind of big. External Dimensions are 24in tall x 12in deep x 10in wide; all sides 3/4 mdf with the exception being the front baffle being 1.5 deep. If i remember correctly, the box was tuned down to 44hz with a port 2in in diameter and about 3.5in long.

Crossover was a 3 way with crossover points at 250hz and 3300hz. Low pass was a 1st order with a zobel. High pass was a 3rd order with an L-pad. The band pass matched the high and the low. As this was more or less my first attempt at a 3 way speaker, I spent half a fortune on crossover parts trying to get it to model fairly flat, but some of the stuff I did probably could be modeled out of my design if more time was spent. I also did not calculate BSC as I figured the way I had modeled it, it was going to run a bit hot in the high frequencies, but are it turned out, it doesnt run as bright as I had anticipated.

Its lowest impedence is around 3.5ohm, but for the most part it stays at or above 4ohm. I am very happy with the sound of it and would have written it up to receive scrutiny/help in getting it designed better, but alas I had not camera readily available. I do have all of my PCD files for the drivers and the project file if you need them, just shoot me a PM with your email address and I can email them to you.