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  • djg
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    I thought we lost you.

  • dwigle
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    Originally posted by angedechu View Post

    Thank you for everything but the second one doesnt exist one piece, it exist Just pair. Can you suggest something else instead of it?
    at the bottom of the listing on the madisound site:

    Need a single speaker or an odd number?

    No problem, singles are simply 1/2 the price of the stereo pair.

    Please leave us a note with your request in the "comments" section of your order.

    We will ship your order with the total number of speakers that you request, and charge accordingly.

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  • angedechu
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    Originally posted by dwigle View Post
    an easy path for a 5.2 system you would be happy with and it would be a fun project given your skill level at this point. Consider buying parts for these:

    2 - Zaph|Audio ZA5.2 TM 2-Way, for rear channels $249/pair
    1 - Zaph|Audio ZA5.2 TM 2-Way, for center channel $165
    2 - Zaph|Audio ZA5.3 MTM for front channels left and right $333/pair

    2 -
    https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...kage--300-7024 12" subs $488/pair
    2- https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...-dsp--300-8010 sub amps $400/pair (lots of options here)

    You're in with parts sets and a proven design for a matched system that will knock your socks off. All for approximately $1700 shipped, you supply most of the wood.

    Having two 12" subs is going to be better than a single 18" sub. Placement of the subs is critical and having two of them makes placement easier to smooth the response across the room.

    The zaph audio designs and parts are available from numerous sites.





    Thank you for everything but the second one doesnt exist one piece, it exist Just pair. Can you suggest something else instead of it?

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  • Hipocrates
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    The point is that you NEED to learn, is not a about budget! Grab a kit, practice, buy a book, learn to do the right questions and after some time, MAYBE you can learn to design something.

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  • dwigle
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    an easy path for a 5.2 system you would be happy with and it would be a fun project given your skill level at this point. Consider buying parts for these:

    2 - Zaph|Audio ZA5.2 TM 2-Way, for rear channels $249/pair
    1 - Zaph|Audio ZA5.2 TM 2-Way, for center channel $165
    2 - Zaph|Audio ZA5.3 MTM for front channels left and right $333/pair

    2 -
    https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...kage--300-7024 12" subs $488/pair
    2- https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...-dsp--300-8010 sub amps $400/pair (lots of options here)

    You're in with parts sets and a proven design for a matched system that will knock your socks off. All for approximately $1700 shipped, you supply most of the wood.

    Having two 12" subs is going to be better than a single 18" sub. Placement of the subs is critical and having two of them makes placement easier to smooth the response across the room.

    The zaph audio designs and parts are available from numerous sites.






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  • dwigle
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    Originally posted by angedechu View Post
    As i said, price is not important for me. 2000 usd or 4000 usd, i can pay.

    I dont want to build a kit.

    Please Just send me a good mid range and tweeter links and the other components for two way crossover. I can deal rest of it.
    What you're describing is a kit without the box. Available all over the web.

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  • dwigle
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    Some bright folks are trying to redirect your focus. The crossover and the box alignment (size and configuration) are arguably more important than the drivers. You started out with a 10" woofer matched to a tweeter. Have you seen one of those in the last 50 years? They don't match up well together. Most 8" drivers won't blend with a tweeter alone either, for all kinds of reasons (we can lead you to the books to learn).

    That's why you see 2 ways with 5,6,7" mid bass drivers - rarely larger. The point here is already made by others. Don't start with looking a pictures of drivers you want. You need to start with a plan, especially if you're looking to spend that kind of money. What do you want this system to do, where, how big is the room, what kind of equipment are you using to drive the system, all HT or some music?

    Starting with picking drivers without knowledge of what parameters make them work well together and without the knowledge and tools to build the proper crossover will lead to disappointment and wasted cash. We know (heard it a thousand times) you want to build your own from ground up, but you don't have the experience and knowledge.

    Join a happy club - I have build 50+ systems, judiciously selecting other people's successful designs over the past thirty years. But I still can't design a proper crossover, I simply don't have the time to learn. I have too many other distractions. I guess I need to retire first. But I find great joy in building cabinets, assembling crossovers and at the end of the day, listening to great speakers. Great speakers with no misfires, no wasted time, no wasted cash, just a progression from good to better to jaw dropping.

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  • Chris Roemer
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    Seas, Scan-Speak, Accuton, RAAL, ...

    It's a long list, BUT -

    drivers are nothing w/out near-perfect box and XO design.

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  • angedechu
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    As i said, price is not important for me. 2000 usd or 4000 usd, i can pay.

    I dont want to build a kit. I want to build them all my self. I got plenty of tools. But as i said, i want to build them, not not buying kits.

    I am begging you please, Just offer me a good mid range and a good tweeter. After that trust me i can build it.

    Please Just send me a good mid range and tweeter links and the other components for two way crossover. I can deal rest of it.

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  • Hipocrates
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    Originally posted by angedechu View Post
    I am already searching Cabinets designs but my main question is about speakers.

    Can you please offer me speaker? For example the third link you have send me has an home theater system design and i can build a similar design with it. But can you please offer me high end speakers instead of hivi?

    https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/swope-ht
    If you do that you will have to change the crossovers, and that's clearly beyond your knowledge.
    To be honest it seems that with the limited budget (you said that your budget is 2K) and capabilities, the best that you can do is buy and already made speaker set (maybe some elac), and start to work on your HT.

    Or maybe these guys can recommend you some kits.

    https://www.diysoundgroup.com
    or
    http://gr-research.com/

    They will recommend you some stuff to assemble.

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  • angedechu
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    I am already searching Cabinets designs but my main question is about speakers.

    Can you please offer me speaker? For example the third link you have send me has an home theater system design and i can build a similar design with it. But can you please offer me high end speakers instead of hivi?

    https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/swope-ht

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  • Kornbread
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    I would suggest following the links in post #8 and decide from there. The first link is of Paul Carmondy's designs, the second link is Curt and Jim's work, both are very highly regarded designers. The third link tells a bit more about choosing a speaker while showcasing many designs from many differing designers. Design specs, or links to those specs, are posted on their websites.

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  • angedechu
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    Okay. My final question.

    What is the best speakers for home theater system, the price is not important. Please send me links for a 2 way crossover with a mid and tweeter and subwoofer and also capacitors,inductors whatever i need for building a two way crossover on part express. As i said, price is not important. I want a good sound and i want to use them for a long time.

    Cabinets can be build, it doesnt matter for me i like working with Woods.

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  • Kornbread
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    IMO, it will be extremely difficult to get the 10" woofer and amt tweeter you linked happily married to each other. Not saying it cannot be done because they're some smart people on this board that design/build some amazing sounding speakers who will prove me wrong.
    The rst28 is not the equal of the old rs28 it replaces in terms of sound or quality control, but, again IMO, the new versions of these drivers can work. The link is to an add for some solidly built cabinets ready for the rs225 and rs28/rst28. You will need to modify the old crossover, if the seller still has them, or build new crossovers.
    Here are some links to various designs that may help you choose your next project.
    https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/diy
    http://speakerdesignworks.com/index_page_2.html
    http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthr...peaker-Designs

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  • angedechu
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    So you are telling that rs225 and rst28 will be better than i choose for home theater system. They will be made crossover as you said. Size doesnt matter for me and actually price doesnt matter for me also. For these circumstances, you are offering me rs225 and rst28. Do we agree?

    The prieces are good, i can even build 7.1.2 (:

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