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  • ElliotPeterson
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    We have used ours on stage for the past three years in and out of small clubs. I love the board.

    We also grabbed an X32 Compact that integrates nicely with our monitor setup. Always has been reliable, no issues thus far. Both of these units work great for in-ears, but can also be set up in the studio if need be. I really believe you can't beat Behringer in this level of the market, despite their name being tarnished from the past.

    The iPad integration is invaluable. I don't think I could return to a time when I had to ask the monitor engineer for a change to my mix.

    More info: https://drummingreview.com/x32-rack-review/
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  • dannyrichardson
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    I'm a huge fan of the X-32 rack version for touring. A lot of bands bring their own X-32 racks and run their ear mix off it with a nice tablet such as an iPad. Super user-friendly IMO.
    Last edited by dannyrichardson; 03-18-2019, 02:14 PM.

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  • tom_s
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    Originally posted by celia
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    PreSonus marketing dept - you're a little late to the party!

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  • johnnyrichards
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    If I had it to do over, the Berry X32 would have been my choice over the AH QU24 I ended up with. However, I did buy the Berry digital snake and snake head - the AH didn't care. Great board, but the Berry is cheaper, sounds just as good, and has more channels.

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  • ibthal79
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    Another important consideration is connectivity. Perhaps more so than with any other product, when you buy a digital mixer you're often buying into a specific set of protocols. For example, while almost all of the models on the following pages can work with so‑called 'digital snakes', they usually also only offer their best compatibility or full feature set when used with snakes from the same manufacture

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  • wahidovic
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    Originally posted by wogg View Post
    X32 FTW

    My buddy who runs his own contracting firm switch to that years ago, in spite of the same long running anti-Behringer bias you have, and hasn't looked back. The inclusion of the Midas IP in the design is solid, though not at the same polish as a full Midas branded console. It eliminated splitter snakes and a seperate stage side monitor board setup and replaced that with a pair of iPads and a wireless router. Easily handes all requirements for all day festival gigs with lots of change overs. He runs the full console, though I have another buddy that runs the rack, and have worked with full time bands that bring one for their own setups.


    Paul O - I hated the Windows X86 client. Tried to use it with my Surface Pro in lieu of an iPad but the interface was small and not touch friendly at all, likely due to the high screen resolution but the lack of full screen usage and scalability was disappointing. I haven't used an Android tablet interface, but the phone version of the app is clearly targeted at someone controlling their own monitor mix and doesn't seem to let you control the main outputs at all. The IOS version seems to be the one to beat IMO.
    If its all the same to you blending with an iPad take a gander at the Allen Heath QU Pac, rack moutable, can be extended to 32 channels with the stage box.

    You can work it from the front board if necessary. I have one and it works extraordinary.

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  • Mike C
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    If you don't mind mixing with an iPad look at the Allen Heath QU Pac, rack moutable, can be expanded to 32 channels with the stage box.
    You can operate it from the front panel if needed. I have one and it works great.

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  • Paulie
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    I have been using a Behringer XR18 for a couple of months and absolutely love it.

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  • tom_s
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    Chris - if you still haven't bought anything, make sure you look at the Behringer XR18. It's actually a great little mixer for very little money. The apps are decent and you can even run an ethernet cable to a FOH laptop and hook up a BFC2000 and have real faders. I had 2 of the BCF units running on a 2012 Macbook Pro - one on OSX and one on a Win 7 emulator for the master section to ride effects returns and such.

    If you need more inputs, bussing options, or wireless physical faders, I have an X32 Rack that I'll sell you at a fair price. It's only been used on 2 jobs - seriously, the band broke up unexpectedly and I decided to retire from FOH duties and retain what's left of my hearing. I still have the BCF units too.

    But in all honesty, I really thought the XR18 was more enjoyable to mix on.

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  • Rory Buszka
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    If I were buying one for myself, it would be the Qu16. It's compact, has plenty of processing, and looks like it's set up well for live sound needs, but if I were buying one for a school/church for permanent installation, it would be the X32 because of that big friendly screen and the color illumination. If buying used, I'd get an M7CL-32 because I've run on it and it's not the latest and greatest but it would make me money and have all the expandability needed for smallish theatre production if the need arose.

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  • wogg
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    X32 FTW

    My buddy who runs his own contracting firm switch to that years ago, in spite of the same long running anti-Behringer bias you have, and hasn't looked back. The inclusion of the Midas IP in the design is solid, though not at the same polish as a full Midas branded console. It eliminated splitter snakes and a seperate stage side monitor board setup and replaced that with a pair of iPads and a wireless router. Easily handes all requirements for all day festival gigs with lots of change overs. He runs the full console, though I have another buddy that runs the rack, and have worked with full time bands that bring one for their own setups.

    Paul O - I hated the Windows X86 client. Tried to use it with my Surface Pro in lieu of an iPad but the interface was small and not touch friendly at all, likely due to the high screen resolution but the lack of full screen usage and scalability was disappointing. I haven't used an Android tablet interface, but the phone version of the app is clearly targeted at someone controlling their own monitor mix and doesn't seem to let you control the main outputs at all. The IOS version seems to be the one to beat IMO.

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  • Paul O
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    There have been more than a few threads on this topic at the PSW forums over the last few years and a couple things stand out to me, Presonus can't make a reliable digital mixer and the Berry X series have proven to be excellent products, very low failure rates, great sound and performance, and they set the value standard that everybody else is still trying to match. If you can't stomach buying anything Behringer(despite the fact the X32 has become the defacto bar band standard) and/or you're a stubborn Apple only consumer(the Android and Windows X32 apps are far better than the Apple version) then an A&H QU is your mixer.
    Last edited by Paul O; 07-10-2018, 01:21 AM.

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  • Sydney
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    Originally posted by STIchris722 View Post
    My problem with most digital boards and it could be me being stubborn is that everything is embedded in sub menus and programmable knobs and buses and etc. I'm not old fashioned and can definitely be taught new things, but analog just makes more sense to me and is much more streamlined. knob for this, knob for that, fader for this, etc. You know though!
    Everyone I've encountered ( who provide Sound Systems ) that has gone from the larger analog to digital boards, all have said there is a learning curve conversion. The interfaces are not as universal and transferable from prior experience. A particular issue for someone who operates unfamiliar setups.
    Example: I thought it problematic that the Display could not be easily seen in an outdoor gig. The owner/operator resorted to fabricating a cardboard hood to see the display on an expensive board.
    I'm sure future designs will improve the I/O flexibility and speed, but for now I can do things much faster "hands on"
    * btw I'll be curious as to your findings

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  • PWR RYD
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    I've been runnig an X32 a couple times a month for the last 3-1/2 years and love it. It's so powerful and user friendly. The ability to save scenes and individual strips is great. I can't begin to explain how great it is to have a gate, compressor, parametric EQ, effects, etc on each and every channel. It would take racks and racks of descrete components to do all that. And the board is dead quiet. That's the first thing we all noticed when we switched out our old Yamaha analog board, silence. It is a Behringer product, so the look and feel isn't as professional as other brands, but its performance has been top notch.

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  • STIchris722
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    Originally posted by Sydney View Post
    Unfortunately I can give specific hands road report on the other options mentioned.
    'veI had my hands on other digital boards ( larger Yamaha models ) but not those.
    ( There are some operational aspects that I found less than ideal. )
    My problem with most digital boards and it could be me being stubborn is that everything is embedded in sub menus and programmable knobs and buses and etc. I'm not old fashioned and can definitely be taught new things, but analog just makes more sense to me and is much more streamlined. knob for this, knob for that, fader for this, etc. You know though!

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