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  • #46
    Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

    I did not retain any original bits other than the cabinets. The original speakers were actually designed to match with a specific Kenwood receiver that fed lo/mid/hi seperately. You could otherwise select one of the other settings. You can see that soft or clear varied the network by changing the resistor value for the respective channel. I don't really have the knowledge (nor impetus) to design an equivalent crossover for the new drivers. Johnny's sounds just fine, no tweaking needed.

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    • #47
      Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

      I'll be building a pair with my Dad for his shop when I get home later this month! The parts are there waiting!

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      • #48
        Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

        all those coils are reuseable, i hope you did not toss them.
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        • #49
          Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

          Clint, I'm glad you like them. The woofers may loosen up a bit over time and the bottom end might "liven" up a little more.

          Arlis, their teenage son spends a lot of time with them. He likes them quite a bit, a big hit with his friends.

          Channing - I look forward to seeing your interpretation as well.

          I am pretty proud of this design and feel it to be a very good value, and a lot of fun to listen to.
          Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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          • #50
            Woot, 1st Post. Pulled the trigger on the parts last night.

            After getting an old PC in my garage, I finally have the ability to stream electronica music. It's so much win over the regular broadcast stuff they have in this area. However right now they're just going thru dinky 3-inch PC 2.0 speaker system. No way to really enjoy the music, it's just noise right now.

            I was about to buy some Sony SS-B3000 bookshelves that can be had for under $70 used on Amazon. They come with a ported 8. I spoke with one my speaker head friends and he talked me into Le Singe though.

            I'd like to have the overhead to be able to turn my stereo to 11 if the need arises. :D So I hope these do the trick.

            Pics and review to follow.

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            • #51
              Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

              Well, 10 months later here they be! lol. I bought the parts but had a friend assemble. My main requirement were that the tweeters be angled as these were gonna go into a garage and I wanted some nice spread. Heck who knows, maybe my kiddo will haul these off to college when the time comes in 16 years!

              Old and busted KLH dinky noise makers. Hmmmmm.... I wonder which could make more noise???


              In their final resting places, corner loaded in mah garage. My wife is all "WTFMATE?" at the size. Lol, women.


              Initial thoughts:
              I was expecting more bass omph out of these puppies with my 100x2 Sherwood http://www.amazon.com/Sherwood-RX-41...dp/B000MBUSD6/

              I guess I was shooting for the moon Alice since in my HT room I have a 1kw 15 monster sub.

              Well after a bit of tweaking I got my basshead side satisfied. I really haven't turned up the volume though cause I was afraid of ******* off my neighbors or my wife, lol. From the very low volumes that I've listened to for several hours though I am REALLY impressed with the mids and highs. Dam they sound amazing, when ya figure how much those mid-high components cost it just boggles my mind at how awesome they sound. I really <3 the lower fill even at very low volumes the 12 produces.

              Needless to say I'm very very very happy so far with all the $ and work I've put into upgrading my garage setup. I can't wait till daylight hours to where I can just jam the ever living crap out of my new Monkeys with some Luda or Deadmau5

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              • #52
                Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

                Wow, that is a cool interpretation of these! The bass will probably warm up after a few days of listening, but they were designed from the get-go to do their best with lots of boundary re-inforcement.
                Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                • #53
                  Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

                  good job. I was underwhelmed by the sherwood, gave it to my parents once I got my marantz 2265 back up and running. go find a vintage marantz to power those bad boys. Johnny, could he add a little BSC by padding down the mids and tweets a bit?

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                  • #54
                    Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

                    Could go with a bigger coil and some higher series resistance, but no doubt that will alter the sound somewhat. There is already enough BSC for corner loading, though. Perhaps, like me, he likes his bass a little "warm"
                    Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Le Singe Sarcophage - A large GRS based 3-way

                      Really a perfect mod for your application. Outstanding job!
                      I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
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                      • #56
                        Would it be safe to assume the ND20FB would not be a simple drop in for the ND20FA in this speaker.

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                        • #57
                          Yeah, they are not swappable tweeters.
                          Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                          • #58
                            Okay, thank you. I was hoping to save a few bucks.

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                            • #59
                              If there was an upgrade that could be made to the drivers without altering the crossover too much, what would it be? I'm planning on building these in an old Sony ssu-420 floor standing cabinet and my budget for parts is $300, trying to make the most of it.

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                              • #60
                                This a competent design using budget drivers. The crossover works for these drivers.

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