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  • Undefinition Swope HT system, m8n floor standers?

    Hi everyone, this may be a common question. *I plan to build the swope system from undefinition. I have all of the drivers on hand minus one m5n.* The only twist is the drivers I purchased for my mains are a set of m8ns. (Originally as replacement woofers with the intent to build later) I was wondering if you have or have seen plans for a set of floor standers that would work for the system.* My instinct tells me to build sealed boxes and include a mid similar to the center design. Unfortunately I am an advanced wood working enthusiast but merely a noob in the speaker world.* Any help in the design department would be greatly appreciated.*Attached is a project I found that seemed to not come to a conclusion just as a reference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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    A 2-way with the M8A/M8N is a pretty tall order. Do you have a tweeter picked out, or do you want to build with plans someone else did?

    Later,
    Wolf
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wolf
      A 2-way with the M8A/M8N is a pretty tall order. Do you have a tweeter picked out, or do you want to build with plans someone else did? Later, Wolf
      Not a 2-way. The Swope HT uses all M5A woofers in a 2-way configuration except for the center which uses 2 M6As with one M5A and a tweeter. Here is the system. https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/swope-ht My hope is to instead build fronts with my existing M8A in a 3-way set up. I'm assuming I would use the same M5A as the rest of the system for the mids. Should I use the recommended volume on parts express? Also what would the new crossover look like? Sorry if my first post was vague, thank you for any help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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      • #4
        So . . . you're wanting to build WHAT: 2 "mains", 3 L/C/Rs, 2 mains + 2 surrounds, or the "5" speakers from a 5.1 "system"????
        What speakers do have already? How many ND28s and how many M8Ns? Do you actually have ANY M5Ns? Any M6Ns?

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        • #5
          If you're an advanced woodworker, you could look into the some of the 2-ways that Jon Marsh over at HTGuide did with the M8A (M8N) several years ago. I forget which tweeters he used. I'm sure someone here must remember this, right?
          Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

          Paul Carmody's DIY Audio Projects
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          • #6
            He and Thomas had an MTM with the XT25/M8A, as well as a 2-way with a Hales Transcendence tweeter, and likely a few more.

            If Ed Froste ever finishes his 'Gold Facts', you would have a likely alternative to the Statements with all HiVi drivers.

            Later,
            Wolf
            "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
            "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
            "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
            "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

            *InDIYana event website*

            Photobucket pages:
            http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

            My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
            http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jer32383
              Not a 2-way. The Swope HT uses all M5A woofers in a 2-way configuration except for the center which uses 2 M6As with one M5A and a tweeter. Here is the system. https://sites.google.com/site/undefinition/swope-ht My hope is to instead build fronts with my existing M8A in a 3-way set up. I'm assuming I would use the same M5A as the rest of the system for the mids. Should I use the recommended volume on parts express? Also what would the new crossover look like? Sorry if my first post was vague, thank you for any help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
              I have two M5A, two m6a, and two m8a. Want to build a 5.1 system. Other than those I'm not locked into anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Wolf
                He and Thomas had an MTM with the XT25/M8A, as well as a 2-way with a Hales Transcendence tweeter, and likely a few more. If Ed Froste ever finishes his 'Gold Facts', you would have a likely alternative to the Statements with all HiVi drivers. Later, Wolf
                I have been searching and have found a couple of MTM pictures but finding the details is proving more of a challenge as the links are all broken and old. One leads to strange Asian porn. I would be happy with this arrangement if I could find the details. I could easily adapt the dimensions to my design. I wonder if having the extra woofers would prove to be overkill? It does seem to make some rather large towers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wolf
                  He and Thomas had an MTM with the XT25/M8A, as well as a 2-way with a Hales Transcendence tweeter, and likely a few more. If Ed Froste ever finishes his 'Gold Facts', you would have a likely alternative to the Statements with all HiVi drivers. Later, Wolf
                  I have been searching and have found a couple of MTM pictures but finding the details is proving more of a challenge as the links are all broken and old. One leads to strange Asian porn. I would be happy with this arrangement if I could find the details. I could easily adapt the dimensions to my design. I wonder if having the extra woofers would prove to be overkill? It does seem to make some rather large towers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paul Carmody
                    If you're an advanced woodworker, you could look into the some of the 2-ways that Jon Marsh over at HTGuide did with the M8A (M8N) several years ago. I forget which tweeters he used. I'm sure someone here must remember this, right?
                    Hi Paul. As the original design is yours, I'd like to pick your brain. Is it feasible to build fronts in the spirit of the center channel? Meaning a sealed MMT (I think) with a M8A, M5A and a ND28F-6? If so would you have a recommendation for M8A sealed volume. Also could you help me with the changes to the crossovers? Sorry if I'm asking a lot. If not I'm going to have to try to find the other proven design above. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                    • #11
                      1st you made it sound like you had the "N" series, but now it seems like you actually have the "A" series (most likely not directly "swappable")?

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                      • #12
                        The first one you posted above is actually the one Jon and Thomas collaborated on. I do know it was a cauer-elliptical high order mess of a nightmarish kind of xover (but I really don't have room to talk), which is Jon's typical MO.

                        I guess it wasn't that complicated...
                        I found it in my archive...
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                        Hope that helps!
                        Wolf
                        "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                        "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                        "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                        "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                        *InDIYana event website*

                        Photobucket pages:
                        http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

                        My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                        http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chris Roemer
                          1st you made it sound like you had the "N" series, but now it seems like you actually have the "A" series (most likely not directly "swappable")?
                          Sir you are correct. You have noticed my deception. I have n series. Most projects I've found are all A series and all that I've read said the difference was negligible. The Swope HT uses all M-A speakers so I just began referring to them as such hoping to avoid any confusion or getting side tracked. Apologies Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                          • #14
                            AFAIK, they are virtually identical. Oh- the attachments above are for both the single woofer and MTM version, IIRC.

                            Later,
                            Wolf
                            "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                            "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                            "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                            "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                            *InDIYana event website*

                            Photobucket pages:
                            http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

                            My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                            http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                            • #15
                              Thanks wolf. If you don't mind do you happen to have the cabinet volume on the mtm and possibly a link to the write up if there was one? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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