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  • #16
    Levitations were very nice! If that size is okay, then my Stances aren't too big.

    The Bantam MTM was nice too!

    Since it appears this isn't so much a ulti-mini thread, I also recommend my Sophomores. More like the OS than many others, but definitely a unique design, and sounds good too.

    Later,
    Wolf
    "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
    "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
    "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
    "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

    *InDIYana event website*

    Photobucket pages:
    http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

    My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
    http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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    • #17
      In particular I find speakers capable of 80hz for subwoofer integration & <$200 desirable. The Vifa XT25SC90-04 ($13.65), Vifa XT25TG30-04 & Vifa XT25BG60-04 are of particular interest given their price and performance.
      I have a pair of XT25TG30's on the shelf looking for a home along with a number of 5" woofers. I need an excuse to turn some of these into a new design, so are there any that might be of particular interest?

      Dayton ND140 - works well sealed in a box like this https://www.parts-express.com/denovo...inet--300-7062

      Fountek FW146 - would result in something a lot like the Swift Ultima, but with a little more bass extension.

      HiVi F5 - A little lower cost, but nice sounding midwoofer. I designed a speaker that I called the "Hawkeyes" about 10 years ago using the XT25TG30 and the Kevlar cone Viva MG14. This would be an updated version of those with a currently available woofer.

      FaitalPro 5Fe120 - can reach 50 Hz F3 in 7 liters with nice midrange and good x-max.

      Keep an open mind, but don't let your brain fall out.

      Argon | Helium | Lithium | LithMTM | Hafnium
      Mercury | Matrix | Shrubbery

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      • #18
        I vote F5!
        Wolf
        "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
        "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
        "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
        "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

        *InDIYana event website*

        Photobucket pages:
        http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

        My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
        http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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        • #19
          Another vote for the HiVi F5. I think the "nipples" of the tweeters will match up with the plug of the woofer.

          While this would break the $ barrier I think these two woofers below are worthy of consideration:
          The Dynavox LW5004HR-N 5-1/4" Honeycomb or Dynavox LW6004HR-N 6-1/2" Honeycomb for about $50-55 from PartsExpress. I would ignore the XT25 in this picture though. It was from a Japanese website with no details given whatsoever. So far the only designer I know of that has used them is Eric L. “brkitup" in his Simplicity's which is pictured below.
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          In a completely unrelated note. Apparently they have found a way to create spider silk from goats. Since spider silk is a liquid they modified goats to produce the silk in their milk by adding the spider gene. The strongest natural fiber known in science. Stronger than steel and light, wonder what its breakup properties are in woofers?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJln-sCpU98
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPa8Vxqvkn0

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          • #20
            Just a FYI note on the original "Bantams" ... there is no nearfield woofer or PR output spliced in the frequency response graph, that's why the bass looks like it rolls off early. In actuality, they are good to the mid 60's and roll off kind of slow until they drop like a tank at 50 Hz or so. They will get nice and loud, especially if you were to use a sub and limit the bass output. The AMT tweeter sparkles pretty good.

            Also, the Bantam MTM is as yet unfinished, crossover-wise. I think I can get more out of it with some more fiddling...hopefully this summer. I'm gearing up for the MWAF so that's where my energy is going lately.

            They're actually just under 12" tall, I just take pics from a low perspective to make them look bigger.

            Wolf's Sophomores are worth a look. One of the first "Amazing" sounding small speakers I've ever heard at my first MWAF when it was still DIY Dayton. They sound better if you paint them red.

            TomZ
            *Veneering curves, seams, using heat-lock iron on method *Trimming veneer & tips *Curved Sides glue-up video
            *Part 2 *Gluing multiple curved laminations of HDF *Cello's Speaker Project Page

            *Building the "Micro-B 2.1 Plate Amplifier -- Part 1 * Part 2 * Part 3 * Part 4 * * Part 5 'Review' * -- Assembly Instructions PDF

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            • #21
              If you are willing to go slightly up in size to a 5" woofer and .23 cube enclosure, the Midnite magics may be worth a look as well.
              https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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              • #22
                I have more than enough speakers to make a decision on. Just creating a list for potential builders now. I know how much I hate easter egg hunts for something to build.

                Mini-TL 80db (2.83v db) - Dayton ND91-8 + Dayton ND25TA-4
                Desktop monitor. Good looking and a transmission line.
                http://projectgallery.parts-express....rized/mini-tl/
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                Latus1 - Dayton PTMini-6 + Dayton RS100P-8 + Dayton DCS165-4
                Nice 3-way although a bit large for computer monitors. Took second place in MWAF 2015. Replacing some capacitors with polypropolene may raise the price above $200
                http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...247950-Latus1=
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                Midnight Magic - Faital Pro 5FE120 + Dayton AMT2-4
                Uses a pro woofer. Most measurements I have seen are quite impressive of pro woofers as midranges.
                http://projectgallery.parts-express....midnite-magic/
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                Simplicity - Dynavox LW6004HR-N + Dayton Audio ND28F-6
                Stunning driver cosmetically. Given the right veneer a unique look.
                http://projectgallery.parts-express....ts/simplicity/
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                Sophmores - HiVi M4N + HiVi TN25
                Most of Wolf's designs are found on photobucket. Looks really good in automotive paint
                http://s18.photobucket.com/user/wolf...?sort=3&page=1
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                • #23
                  Stance - RS125-4 + Beston RT003C
                  Who knew a box looked better than a rectangle?
                  http://s18.photobucket.com/user/wolf...?sort=3&page=1
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                  Profusion - HiVi F5 + HiVi RT1c (now the HiVi RT1.3WE??)
                  Not sure if this design is NLA
                  http://s18.photobucket.com/user/wolf...?sort=3&page=1
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                  Xenums - Tang Band W3-315E + Vifa XT25SC90-04
                  If you look hard enough the Tang Band is still in stock somewhere...But customs just kills it
                  http://s18.photobucket.com/user/wolf...?sort=3&page=1
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                  The Jonquils RS150P-8 + SB26STNC
                  The paper version RS driver is hard to find designs for so I was glad I found this one. The aluminum version does so many things well already with a decade of designs.
                  http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...sb26stnc/page4
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                  Halfniums - Tang Band W5-1138SMF + Vifa TC9FD-18-08 + Vifa OT19NC00-04
                  Already own the Tang Band for a Voxel Sub. Seriously considering salvaging it for this, small box too. Not the final word in resolution but it's a mini 3-way. We need more of these types
                  http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo.../53512-hafnium
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                  • #24
                    Kozo - Dayton RS180P-4 + Tang Band W3-315E + Vifa OX20SC00-04
                    Another really small mini 3 way using a paper Dayton. Designer might still have CAD file for faceplate. Tang band can still be found...Good luck on customs though lol
                    http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...g-the-rs180p-4
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                    Miura's - Dayton CF120-4 + Dayton ND25FA
                    Really wish there were more Carbon Fiber speakers.
                    http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...on-cf120-build
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                    AP3 - Dayton ND105-4 + Vifa TC9FD18-08 + Vifa XT25SC90
                    Maybe just a tad too big for a computer desk but perfect for a bedroom.
                    http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...ocol-3-way-ap3
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                    Falcons - Peerless 830869 + Dayton RS52AN + Vifa XT25SC90
                    Exactly the sort of design that has me licking my lips. Two small catches though.. 1) That woofer is expensive 2) That crossover looks scary in count and price
                    http://ampslab.com/falcon.htm
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                    Oriole - Tang Band W5-704s + HiVi RT1C-A
                    Another Planar speaker.
                    http://ampslab.com/oriole.htm
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                    • #25
                      Profusion was a simulation of the HiVi design with the F5 and the RT1.3WE. I've not built it.
                      Those are Javad's version of my Stances, FWIW. He did a good job.
                      Sophomores has 3 'o's in it.

                      Then there are Rory's 'Whetstones' as well.... Just MANY options abound.
                      Later,
                      Wolf
                      "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                      "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                      "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                      "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                      *InDIYana event website*

                      Photobucket pages:
                      http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

                      My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                      • #26
                        0.5cuft..biggest little speaker

                        For versitility, the ($58)SB Acoustics SB17NRXC35 6" midbass with ($52)SB29RDC dome tweeter is a world wide favorite. Search PE-talk here for BW3-BW3 crossover circuit ideal for a simple flat baffle. A 0.5cuft cabinet produces stand-alone TM ported bass, or excellent sealed box transients as the TM in a 3-way.

                        For "close up listening" in a tall&narrow 0.5cuft monitor-desktop cabinet, a rear ported 5" ($52) Tang Band W5-2143 crossed at 2.6kHz to the ($11) Tymphany BC25SC06-4 Silk Dome Tweeter has a couple diy designs with positive reviews. Web search for the crossover using BW3 tweeter + LR2 midrange.

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                        • #27
                          I know a lot of members here might scoff, but if you want simplicity, perfect coherence, and outstanding sound stage, especially for near field, there are some single-driver full-range designs that are great. In particular, the Redeye, which uses an Aura NS-3, is simply amazing. I have them playing right now in my office and am amazed at how much sound and bass comes out of these little guys.

                          http://wodendesign.com/downloads/Wod...abs-081015.pdf (the Redeye is the design at the bottom of this list)
                          "We're speaker geeks, not speaker nerds. Nerds make money!" Marty H
                          Bismarck, North Dakota
                          My Current System: Jolida SJ502A, Squeezebox Touch, and Carmody Sunflowers
                          My Garage System:Marantz 2238B and Nano-Neos

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                          • #29
                            Totally agree. The Sophomores are a classic example of a speaker that seems kind of "meh" until you listen to it, then seems kind of "wow".
                            Keep an open mind, but don't let your brain fall out.

                            Argon | Helium | Lithium | LithMTM | Hafnium
                            Mercury | Matrix | Shrubbery

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                            • #30
                              I'll keep adding speakers as I find them or as recommended. Trying to keep the list to speakers where at least one driver can be purchased from Parts-Express. Also, trying to exclude speakers that are already kits. I have about ten more I found but I'm going to bed, late, work tomorrow.

                              The Dadiels - Dayton ND90 + Vifa BC25SC55-04
                              Unsure if the ND90 is the 4 or 8 ohm version. Micro sized speaker
                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...rs-the-dadiels
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                              Helium - Dayton ND91-4 + Dayton ND16FA-6
                              Popular build. Whoever made these has good taste in veneer
                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...monitor/page14
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                              The Whetstones - Tang Band W4-1052SD
                              Full ranger in a TL. Potentially a stunner if veneered.
                              https://sites.google.com/site/taterw...dio/whetstones
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                              Mariposas - Tectonics HIBM65C20-8 + Dayton ND16FA
                              Super mini speaker next to the Continuum, link below to a hilarious cotton candy pink build.
                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...fa-hibm65c20-8
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                              Choti HT - Dayton RS100-4 + Dayton ND16FA
                              A micro HT speaker. Looks good for a 80hz crossover.
                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...0-4-and-nd16fa
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