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    This is the sequel to my earlier thread about Perfect Songs. And I suspect a lot of people were sort of heading this way with their responses.

    To me, the flip side of a "Perfect Song" is a "Musical Journey." That is:

    +The song might "take its time" and doesn't necessarily fit into a standard 3:30 time slot (although it could)
    +It will often move through varying themes and ideas, but each one makes sense in the whole
    +It keeps your interest throughout
    +When the song is over, you feel like you've just been on a journey, and you're eager to go back

    I fear that the clips people will post will end up with much longer listening sessions than the last thread, but oh well. I also expect there to be a lot of Prog Rock; it just sort of suits the genre. So, like bonus points if you include non-prog-rock songs :-)

    Here are a few of my favorites

    Pat Metheny - "Minuano (Six Eight)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__N8fMTZa-s
    I still remember the first time I heard this. Even as an angry teenager with raging hormones, this song blew me away.

    Porcupine Tree - "Anesthetize" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSEQZ8reJA4

    Periphery - "Racecar" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGyPwkfmk4g

    Steve Vai - "Fire Garden Suite" https://youtu.be/p0IkDcyJGzE?list=PLD6CA55B14ABFF9D0

    Emerson Lake and Palmer - "Tarkus" (obviously) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNOlDtZluU

    Apex Theory / Mt. Helium - "Lightpost" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROoLRvifLsA
    Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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    Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
    ...+The song might "take its time" and doesn't necessarily fit into a standard 3:30 time slot (although it could)
    +It will often move through varying themes and ideas, but each one makes sense in the whole
    +It keeps your interest throughout
    +When the song is over, you feel like you've just been on a journey, and you're eager to go back... non-prog-rock songs :-)..
    My recent Journey takes 51:50 and prompted me to buy the CD ( classified as Alternative) :
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    • #3
      Well I'll jump in before Pink Floyd is beaten to death....

      Echoes
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53N99Nim6WE

      Pigs (Three Different Ones)
      https://www.google.fr/search?q=pink+...mWH4e3a4fijvAO

      And I know this won't be everyone's cup of tea... but I think Galaxie 500 does some great songs in this category. Long, slow building guitar solos that lull you into forgetting they are guitar solos. This is "Listen, Snow is Falling"
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-o3rN99pI

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      • #4
        Same for Rush, tops being 2112. Just about any Iron Maiden album , which usually include an epic 10 min song 😀 Especially Rime of the Ancient Mariner ( this is what not ta do if a bird sh1ts on ya)
        A mains
        The Ventures
        Open Invit8tions
        RSR
        Sound Troopers
        Acorns
        442
        DGBG's
        The Monuments

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        • #5
          Well, if you want a long musical journey that includes multiple themes or at least variations on a theme, you ought to listen to classical symphonies and concertos. They're usually anywhere from 30 minutes to over 70 minutes long. As to Paul's comment about Pat Metheny's - "Minuano (Six Eight)", I have that on a CD by Bob Curnow's L.A. Big Band and love it. There are 12 "songs" on this CD by the Pat Metheny Group arranged for the idiom of jazz big band.
          Paul

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          • #6
            Meshuggah- 'I' (21:00+)

            Dream Theater- 'Endless Sacrifice' (15:00+)

            Dream Theater- 'Metropolis Part II: Scenes From a Memory' (full album)

            Queensryche- 'Operation: Mindcrime' (full album)

            I'm sure I could name others...
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            • #7
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lLfYJM-XHE

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
                This is the sequel to my earlier thread about Perfect Songs. And I suspect a lot of people were sort of heading this way with their responses.

                To me, the flip side of a "Perfect Song" is a "Musical Journey." That is:

                +The song might "take its time" and doesn't necessarily fit into a standard 3:30 time slot (although it could)
                +It will often move through varying themes and ideas, but each one makes sense in the whole
                +It keeps your interest throughout
                +When the song is over, you feel like you've just been on a journey, and you're eager to go back

                I fear that the clips people will post will end up with much longer listening sessions than the last thread, but oh well. I also expect there to be a lot of Prog Rock; it just sort of suits the genre. So, like bonus points if you include non-prog-rock songs :-)

                Here are a few of my favorites

                Pat Metheny - "Minuano (Six Eight)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__N8fMTZa-s
                I still remember the first time I heard this. Even as an angry teenager with raging hormones, this song blew me away.

                Porcupine Tree - "Anesthetize" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSEQZ8reJA4

                Periphery - "Racecar" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGyPwkfmk4g

                Steve Vai - "Fire Garden Suite" https://youtu.be/p0IkDcyJGzE?list=PLD6CA55B14ABFF9D0

                Emerson Lake and Palmer - "Tarkus" (obviously) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNOlDtZluU

                Apex Theory / Mt. Helium - "Lightpost" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROoLRvifLsA
                ​Paul, was Tarkas the album the first major test of the system "Tarkas" ? It is definitely a good recording and I consider the whole album as one song.

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                • #9
                  "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!...."
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paul K. View Post
                    Well, if you want a long musical journey that includes multiple themes or at least variations on a theme, you ought to listen to classical symphonies and concertos. They're usually anywhere from 30 minutes to over 70 minutes long. As to Paul's comment about Pat Metheny's - "Minuano (Six Eight)", I have that on a CD by Bob Curnow's L.A. Big Band and love it. There are 12 "songs" on this CD by the Pat Metheny Group arranged for the idiom of jazz big band.
                    Paul

                    A shorter classical journey (10 or so minutes), but awesome never-the-less. Gustav Mahler's "Adagietto" (4th) movement from his 5th symphony. It was a love sonnet written for the woman he eventually married. Be patient with it. Close your eyes and let the music flow over you.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15WQNKhaCHY

                    Bernstein does his best to wring every last bit of emotion out of it.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by carlspeak View Post
                      "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!...."
                      No no. You're thinking of "Karn Evil 9," which would almost qualify for this thread, however I tend to drift during the 3rd act--thus disqualifying it from meeting all the criteria.
                      Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Squidspeak View Post

                        ​Paul, was Tarkas the album the first major test of the system "Tarkas" ? It is definitely a good recording and I consider the whole album as one song.
                        It was the tune I debuted it with at Iowa. Was it the first song I ever played on them? Beats me. They sound good with anything I really ought to do another 3-way with a 10" woofer again.
                        Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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                        • #13
                          I feel bad for leaving out "Thick as a Brick" by Jethro Tull. My understanding was that Ian Anderson wrote the songs separately like any normal album. But they just flow together so well that I've always just thought of it as one very long song. Also, he claims to have written it as a "parody" to self-indulgent never-ending Prog Rock songs--but again, this slipped by me.

                          https://youtu.be/SdwQmkuUUIE
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Paul Carmody
                            I also expect there to be a lot of Prog Rock; it just sort of suits the genre. So, like bonus points if you include non-prog-rock songs
                            No bonus points for me, 'cause I have to put forward "Supper's Ready", Genesis, Foxtrot album.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Paul K. View Post
                              Well, if you want a long musical journey that includes multiple themes or at least variations on a theme, you ought to listen to classical symphonies and concertos. They're usually anywhere from 30 minutes to over 70 minutes long. As to Paul's comment about Pat Metheny's - "Minuano (Six Eight)", I have that on a CD by Bob Curnow's L.A. Big Band and love it. There are 12 "songs" on this CD by the Pat Metheny Group arranged for the idiom of jazz big band.
                              Paul

                              I'm with Paul. BTW I'd like to hear that version of Minuano!

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