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  • A FAST System with Tang Band and Dayton Audio thoughts / opinions / advice ?

    Thinking of building a mini bookshelf with the Tang Band W5-1138SMF and Dayton Audio PS95-8. The idea is to have a small bookshelf with deep bass. Some eq will be applied to shape the sound.
    Any reason why this would be a terrible idea ?
    Last edited by w2olves; 08-11-2017, 02:15 PM. Reason: FAST, Mini Bookshelf

  • #2
    IIRC you'll need a longish port - the smaller the cab the longer the port. One or two passive radiators is a viable alternative.
    "Everything is nothing without a high sound quality." (Sure Electronics)

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    • #3
      So long as the 97dB maximum SPL is adequate the TB should work well, even without EQ. I don't see the need to pair it with a midbass driver, as it should be fine to 1kHz. I'd go with something smaller to get better HF dispersion.
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      • #4
        How small are you thinking?
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        • #5
          Javad's project should give you a few ideas...

          http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...95-and-w5-2053
          John H

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          • #6
            I had thoughts of doing same think with Tang Band. My thought was to pair it with one of the following:

            https://www.parts-express.com/peerle...-ohm--264-1154

            https://www.parts-express.com/peerle...-ohm--264-1618

            https://www.parts-express.com/peerle...ofer--264-1062

            I think the first 2 would work in the W-5 because as Bill noted you could use a bit higher crossover point, say 700 or so, and you would get better HF dispersion with the smaller drivers. Ben Cooper's Honeycombs looks like the used peerless 1 inch aluminum with a 3 inch Tang Band subwoofer.

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            • #7
              I feel like if I gave a little background, my intents would be clearer and gurus here can tell me right from wrong. The speakers here are for my brother. A career military man who is always on the move, but also happens to love music. He wants something that would be fairly portable, and can go low. He is a bit of a bass head.
              I have the Dayton PS95 in a small cube speaker with a built in 5w amplifier. He thinks these speakers sound very natural.
              His current speakers are the Pioneer BS22 which is about as big a box he can have. He would like me to build him something in that form factor, with deeper bass extension.
              Hence my quest for answers and opinions.

              I have three configurations in mind, which one would work best ? I am open to passive radiator ideas as well


              The Tang Band W5-1138SMF with Dayton Audio PS95-8
              https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...8-ohm--295-349
              https://www.parts-express.com/tang-b...eaker--264-917



              The Tymphany 830946 6-1/2 with Dayton Audio PS95-8
              https://www.parts-express.com/peerle...-ohm--264-1148



              Or two Tymphany SDS Series 830855 4" Woofer 8 Ohm with a Tymphany BC25SC55-04 1" Square Frame Tweeter
              https://www.parts-express.com/peerle...-ohm--264-1065
              https://www.parts-express.com/peerle...eter--264-1024

              Thanks

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              • #8
                Unless you are set on doing your own design, you should look at the Overnight Sensations. They're small, but offer more bass than you would expect. The problem with trying to keep things small is that typically means less bass. The overnight Sensations have somehow overcome that issue to a point. Another idea would be to go with the Peerless TC 9 in a sealed box about 5X5X6 and a separate subwoofer. The sub you reference can be put into a relatively small enclosure with a 25 watt plate amp and produce bass that is quite good (look for the Voxel subwoofer build). I run a Nola Brio clone, which is two Peerless TC9's per enclosure (roughly 11X6X5) and a Voxel sub. I can't sing it's praises enough and it's nice an compact.
                Mike
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                • #9
                  At that size the c-notes would also fit. I assume the idea of the fast design is to avoid doing a crossover design.
                  John H

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                  • #10
                    Along the line of the Overnight Sensations - Paul Carmody also has another very popular speaker called the Speedsters. About the same size as the O.S.s, but a definite step up. Of course it's also more expensive. I know some people have assumed a subwoofer was in use when they heard the Speedsters. But it's a 4 inch woofer like the O.S.s so don't expect to blast a very large room with them.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by w2olves View Post
                      The speakers here are for my brother. A career military man who is always on the move, but also happens to love music. He wants something that would be fairly portable, and can go low. He is a bit of a bass head.

                      Thanks
                      You could build a 2.1 boom box with the TB W5 woofer in the center flanked by (m)any of the designs already mentioned. The TB-W5 in the Voxel configuration goes down to the low 30s IIRC.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Millstonemike View Post

                        You could build a 2.1 boom box with the TB W5 woofer in the center flanked by (m)any of the designs already mentioned. The TB-W5 in the Voxel configuration goes down to the low 30s IIRC.

                        The idea of the system is somewhat based on the voxels. Since he doesn't want a three speaker solution, I thought, fine I will integrate a voxel on each speaker. The fast system came to mind only because he said the daytons sound natural, I am not opposed to building a crossover or an attenuator for the high frequencies. Will it be possible to get the tang band and the Dayton into a .6 cubic feet enclosure with or without passive radiators and get a decent bass extension ? Or should I just go with the c notes ?

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                        • #13
                          A suggestion. Scott Sehlin did a 3 way called Hafnium with that Tang Band W-5. His mid was Vifa TC9FD-18.

                          Use his lowpass on the Tang band W-5. Use his highpass for the Vifa, but forget the lowpass and tweeter and make it a 2 way with Vifa covering the mid and highs.

                          You can copy the Voxel enclosure, one for each speaker. Or if you want to make it smaller you can use a sealed box which was used with the other version of the W5 1138 in NRNP sub. It will not go as low but is very small.

                          ​The Dayton PS

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