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  • #16
    Go to the latest Star Wars movie and explain to them that they'll never experience sound like that from headphones or a tabletop bluetooth system. They'll figure it out.


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    Marty

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    • #17
      Yesterday I was waiting for a flight and there was a young woman wearing Beats headphones, which are evidently all about marketing rather than sound, but she was also wearing a knit hat under the Beats. I'm sure she thought everything sounded great.
      It is estimated that one percent of the general population are psychopaths - New Criminologist: Understanding Psychopaths

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      • #18
        Originally posted by martyh View Post
        (Shameless opportunity to post a picture of my 2014 Stormtrooper build!)

        Marty
        Thou is well trained in the Jedi arts ...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Millstonemike View Post

          Thou is well trained in the Jedi arts ...
          This was definitely my 'Iamonewiththeforce, theforceiswithme' moment. I have ObiwanChrisRoemer to thank for much of the success with this project.

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          • #20
            When I was young, the youths had boomboxes.

            ​Now the youths have Bluetooth speakers, basically the same thing with a bit more battery life and a different source for the music.

            I won't right off the youth just yet :-).

            Brian Steele
            www.diysubwoofers.org

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            • #21
              Modern pop music is so bad and poorly recorded that today's youth wouldn't know how to listen to decent tunes, even if they could find them. It's not about the music.

              Sub-par audio quality taints these otherwise beautifully styled and solidly built headphones.

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              • #22
                Also, I suspect everything possible is done to distract the audience from the limited- to no-talent primary performers on stage and in videos, like flashing strobe lights, pyrotechnics, background dancers, large-screen video displays, excessive loudness, etc.
                Paul

                Originally posted by turn2 View Post
                Modern pop music is so bad and poorly recorded that today's youth wouldn't know how to listen to decent tunes, even if they could find them. It's not about the music.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Paul K. View Post
                  Also, I suspect everything possible is done to distract the audience from the limited- to no-talent primary performers on stage and in videos, like flashing strobe lights, pyrotechnics, background dancers, large-screen video displays, excessive loudness, etc.
                  Paul


                  Agreed: here's a link to a video about the quality of modern pap - there was a discussion on this topic in PETT a couple of months ago.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII

                  I tried playing a modern, compressed and limited recording (Red Hot Chilli Peppers Californication) on my system when I got my marvellous 'Slapshot' speakers by Curt Campbell. It sounded awful: shrill, no light and shade, tinny drums and a harsh vocal sound - but it doesn't sound quite that bad on our car stereo for example.

                  And I can't stand that stuff with one alleged 'star', about six back up singers (as there's no using Autotune or ProTools on stage!) and 20 dancers to try and take your mind off the drivel. Or singers who think they need to include their entire vocal range in one word...or.. rant over!

                  Most people will discover good music in time, but many people never will and I think this would apply to most generations. Jimi Hendrix once said that there are two kinds of music: good and bad; and to me good music, whatever the genre, has to have a soul, a purpose and needs to entertain and stimulate.

                  There has always been dreadful pop music but these days it seems much more intrusive and ephemeral than say, 20 years ago.

                  Geoff
                  Last edited by Geoff Millar; 12-19-2017, 05:26 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Good reasons for the decline of hobbyist audio were already listed in this thread.

                    One more reason: the "audiophile" hobby itself is a total joke in the minds of the public. It's synonymous with morons who spend $25,000 on speaker cables and fetishize audio equipment to an unhealthy degree. Mention the term "audiophile" to somebody and ask them what that term conjures up. The word represents obsessive lunatics, idiots with too much money, or both. Who would want to be involved with that?

                    Of course, we know that most people in this hobby are actually pretty reasonable. We know that if you know your stuff and don't mind some DIY, you can get a really nice audio experience for a few hundred bucks and a really outstanding one for less than a grand. And we know that expenditure will pay "dividends" for years because it will still sound good decades from now.

                    And one more reason: most people have never heard a nice audio system. Growing up, most of us heard a nice system that belonged to our older brothers or parents or uncles or neighbors. Thus began the love affair. Where would somebody even hear that nowadays?

                    I don't sweat it, though. It's a fun hobby for me. Their loss.

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