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  • mlau
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    Just an update.

    These speakers pass the "sloppy smile" test.
    They bring a sloppy smile to my face.

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  • djg
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    S2000 MTM crossovers using the available PC boards. Well worth the price IMHO.

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  • mlau
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    Good to know.

    I may bring my s2000 speakers to my workshop.

    I generally listen to low volume stuff too

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  • robca
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    Thanks for all the input on the S2000 MTM as a desktop speaker. After going back and forth, I decided instead to get a pair of Speedsters. According to Paul Carmody, the S2000 shine best when used at higher volumes, and I tend to listen to music at pretty low volumes, esp when in front of my PC.

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  • mlau
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    Fwiw, I didn't use clamps on my builds.... just a crap ton of tape....

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  • mlau
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    They should work for you.
    However, I feel it may be big for desktop speakers.

    Mine is paired with a SMSL AD18. Works great as DAC/AMP, aux, or BT. I haven't tried coax or optical yet

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  • djg
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    I'm using two TMs and an MTM for HT in a larger room than yours, quite adequate, but with a sub. The MTMs will be more sensitive with more bass than TMs. One user review at diysg is happy with MTM monitors. I hooked the one MTM up briefly to my PC 2.1, can't really give you any meaningful info other than it was louder than the TM it was playing with.

    The flat pack is very easy to assemble, I recommend you tape it together and let the glue set up a bit, then clamp. It will avoid the pieces sliding around with wet glue.

    You will need to drill holes for the binding posts, use the ones Erich shows.

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  • robca
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    I'm planning to build a pair of S2000 MTM using the DIYSG kit (I have no woodworking tools anymore). They need to do double duty as desktop speakers, and as the main speakers for a 12'x15' room, sitting on a desk 7' apart, and roughly 4' from the desktop listening position, or when moving around the room. I will power them with a NAD D3020 amplifier. I simply do not have the room for anything bigger than a ~6"x9" footprint for the speakers

    I know that there are some concerns in using an MTM configuration as near field monitors, but in my case they are not so "near", and I really think that the MTM will be needed when used as main speaker for the biggish room. I also do not want to use a separate woofer, because I'm not bass-crazy and in any case those tend to annoy neighboring apartments (bass transmit much further than the person listening realizes), so MTM is the only way to get some bass out of a 6"x9" footprint.

    I looked at a few other kits (OS, C-Note, Quarks, etc) and the S2000 MTM seems to be my best option. And I need to use a kit, since I have no way to make or modify cabinets

    What do people who use them think of using the S2000 MTM as close as 4' away? I'm willing to accept some compromise in order to have one pair of speakers cover both scenarios (desktop and main speakers)

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  • mlau
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    Originally posted by djg View Post
    Actually I'm building some real LXminis, and they will be right beside my downsized HT with S2000s. Stay tuned.

    Please document well, and let me know how you like them!

    Currently, I'm saving up for a 3d printing system...I'm tempted to print the couplers off a thingiverse design that I found.
    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:748550

    It'd be nice to build a combination of Jeff, Paul, Seig...maybe oneday Wolf too.

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  • djg
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    Actually I'm building some real LXminis, and they will be right beside my downsized HT with S2000s. Stay tuned.

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  • mlau
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    By the way, can anyone compare these to the Continuums or Kairos?

    I have the itch to build again, and am thinking of one of the three: Continuum, Kairos, or LX mini clone.

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  • mlau
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    I'm probably one of the slowest guys here.

    I finally finished my speakers about two nights ago (after getting the flu, ironically).
    It's the first time that I gave up on a perfect finish....I sanded back my pearwood to a nice 160 grit...rubbed on some soap.
    The soap left a lovely finish. https://www.popularwoodworking.com/t...lean-finish-2/

    The speakers aren't burnt in yet, but I can definitely hear that these are very competent speakers.
    They easily pass the "can you tell a WAV vs MP3 test."
    However, the mp3's are still very, very listenable.

    Anyways, a big thanks to Paul Carmody for designing these...I really need to get started on his guitar sometime.

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  • fazz
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    Originally posted by djg View Post
    Nice work. I never show anyone my crossovers. I like those clamps, the pigeon toed ones. Harbor freight?

    I agree with your sound rating, real bargain.
    I believe the pigeon toes came from home depot, quite a few years ago at this point.

    LOL about the xover, it is a very personal thing to show.

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  • djg
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    Nice work. I never show anyone my crossovers. I like those clamps, the pigeon toed ones. Harbor freight?

    I agree with your sound rating, real bargain.

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  • fazz
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    First of all I wanted to thank ceiol for the xover layout. Well done sir.


    Secondly I wanted to throw my s2000 impressions and a few pics into the mix for those looking for more info or are considering them as a project.


    TLDR: Great sounding speakers, tweets are clear, non-fatiguing, has a lot of nuance and detail. Mids are solid and bass is exceptional for such a small speaker. I had to check the sub was off when demoing them for the first time. If you're looking for small speakers that deliver big high quality sound - you will be extremely hard pressed to find a better value.


    I ended up utilizing the recommended port size by gluing the extension piece in the smallest configuration. I also packed the cabinet pretty damn full of polyfill, and can say it does add a lot of warmth and depth to the bass response.


    I built these with the intention of utilizing them as rears and rear atmos duty for the bedroom setup. With that in mind the requirements were as small as possible (for WAF) and as full range as possible (because why not). I finished them white to match the furniture also to increase WAF.


    Once completed in unfinished state I brought them to my computer 2.2 setup without polyfill to give them a quick listen and test the xover, etc. I ended up leaving a pair of them for over a week and spent quite a bit of time with them. I changed receivers, settings/eq (audyssey), placements, etc. with a variety of music and games. For information purposes, the s2000's in question replaced a pair of MTM Overnight Sensations. I also have a pair of lilmike's anarchy tapped horns in mix.


    Initial impressions were jaw dropping. I did not expect them to produce as much quality sound as they do in a cabinet half the size of the MTM OS's with a 1/3 less speakers (MT vs MTM). The tweet is clear and has a lot of detail and nuance and did not fatigue. The mids are solid and the bass was the star of the show. I literally had to get on the floor to make sure the subs were off, they produce that much clear/quality bass in the 50's. For ~$100 shipped with the flat pack, they are an insane value.


    In my opinion these speakers are great for a variety of duties. If overall finished size of the speaker is of high importance, I'm not sure you can get much better than these, especially for the value.

    1. Excellent small 2.0 or 2.1 setup for music listening, depending on the music and volume desires these just may be enough in a 2.0 setup.
    2. Excellent for surround or atmos duty


    For rear and atmos duty these are pretty much overkill in my bedroom setup. I'm extremely impressed with the overall quality of the sound these tiny speakers produce. The bass these produce is comical coming from such a small speaker.

    To be thorough, these would not satisfy my desires for a LCR or 2.0(2.1) setup. They do not produce enough volume and do not go low enough for my personal tastes. I would expect LCR / or stereo setup to be strong into the high 30's to low 40's with high volume.


    A few pics for your enjoyment. Let me know if you have any questions.


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