Official Grand Rapids Blind Listening Competition - May 19

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  • Navy Guy
    Seasoned Veteran
    • Feb 2013
    • 2112

    Official Grand Rapids Blind Listening Competition - May 19

    Ok, last thread on the topic. The Eclipse 5.25" woofer was chosen as the driver for this competition. You can get one by filling out the following Google form https://goo.gl/MTcdM9 which will register you for the event and you'll get a code sent to you to get the Eclipse woofer at the special discount pricing. Official rules below:


    Budget
    The budget for the event is $250 for the drivers and crossovers. The woofer will be counted at the special price ($39) for this event. A bill of materials should be submitted with your build which show retail (not sale) prices. With the exception of the woofer, no other special pricing is allowed to be used for the event. Shipping costs do not factor into the cost of the build. With the exception of waveguides, cabinets and damping material do not factor into the cost of the build. Waveguides, if purchased, must be added to the build cost at retail price.

    Drivers
    You must use the Eclipse 5.25" woofer in your build. You can use it in any alignment or configuration you want but there must be at least one per side used. All other drivers are up to the builder, but must be currently available with a reasonable certainty they will be available in the future (i.e. no closeout or buyout drivers).

    Cabinets
    Any cabinet configuration is permitted. Non-adjustable stands will be provided at the event for bookshelf speakers.

    Judging
    The judging will take place on May 19 at the Meniscus facility in Grand Rapids. Listening will be done blind. Anyone involved in the setup will not be allowed to vote. Scorecards will be handed out to all in attendance and summed by category at the end of the day. The speaker with the top score will be crowned the winner.

    Other
    At least one of your speakers must arrive at the Meniscus facility in Grand Rapids NLT May 12 for measurements. They can be shipped in at your cost or dropped off in person. Return shipping is your responsibility as well.


    That covers everything I can think of in the rules, but if you have questions, just let me know.
    -Kerry
  • Ranis
    Been Around Awhile
    • Nov 2017
    • 106

    #2
    Do we include tax into the $250?

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    • DE Focht
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 769

      #3
      Originally posted by Ranis
      Do we include tax into the $250?

      Really??? $172 in drivers and crossover parts remain after the Eclipses are removed from your BOM. Shipping, taxes, boxes and accessories ....not counted

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      • Navy Guy
        Seasoned Veteran
        • Feb 2013
        • 2112

        #4
        Originally posted by Ranis
        Do we include tax into the $250?
        No, taxes don’t need to be included if you have to pay them for any reason.
        -Kerry

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        • craigk
          Seasoned Veteran
          • May 2012
          • 3899

          #5
          Originally posted by DE Focht


          Really??? $172 in drivers and crossover parts remain after the Eclipses are removed from your BOM. Shipping, taxes, boxes and accessories ....not counted
          Why would shipping be counted ?
          craigk

          " Voicing is often the term used for band aids to cover for initial design/planning errors " - Pallas

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          • JavadS
            Seasoned Veteran
            • Feb 2016
            • 1043

            #6
            Originally posted by DE Focht
            Really??? $172 in drivers and crossover parts remain after the Eclipses are removed from your BOM. Shipping, taxes, boxes and accessories ....not counted
            The way I read it, it’s $250 plus the eclipse drivers
            --
            Javad Shadzi
            Bay Area, CA

            2-Channel Stereo system in the works with Adcom components and 4-way towers

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            • Navy Guy
              Seasoned Veteran
              • Feb 2013
              • 2112

              #7
              Originally posted by JavadS
              The way I read it, it’s $250 plus the eclipse drivers
              No, $250 includes the eclipse drivers.
              -Kerry

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              • JavadS
                Seasoned Veteran
                • Feb 2016
                • 1043

                #8
                Originally posted by Navy Guy
                No, $250 includes the eclipse drivers.
                Ahh ok, so it is truly $172 for any other drivers you want to add to the 2 eclipse drivers, gotcha, thanks.
                --
                Javad Shadzi
                Bay Area, CA

                2-Channel Stereo system in the works with Adcom components and 4-way towers

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                • ani_101
                  Seasoned Veteran
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1802

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JavadS

                  Ahh ok, so it is truly $172 for any other drivers you want to add to the 2 eclipse drivers, gotcha, thanks.

                  and the crossovers and retail waveguide if added. 172 for tweeter other woofers, XO, waveguide. Does not include box, wood, finish, wires, binding posts, spikes.

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                  • ani_101
                    Seasoned Veteran
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1802

                    #10
                    Can we get non competition speakers to the event for show and tell or is it restricted to Competition speakers only? Can we get competitions spec speakers for show and tell, if we are unable to ship ahead for the measurements?

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                    • Navy Guy
                      Seasoned Veteran
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 2112

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ani_101
                      and the crossovers and retail waveguide if added. 172 for tweeter other woofers, XO, waveguide. Does not include box, wood, finish, wires, binding posts, spikes.
                      Correct
                      -Kerry

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                      • Navy Guy
                        Seasoned Veteran
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 2112

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ani_101
                        and the crossovers and retail waveguide if added. 172 for tweeter other woofers, XO, waveguide. Does not include box, wood, finish, wires, binding posts, spikes.
                        Correct
                        -Kerry

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                        • Navy Guy
                          Seasoned Veteran
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 2112

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ani_101
                          Can we get non competition speakers to the event for show and tell or is it restricted to Competition speakers only? Can we get competitions spec speakers for show and tell, if we are unable to ship ahead for the measurements?
                          I think either of those would be fine but it will all depend on time available.
                          -Kerry

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                          • ani_101
                            Seasoned Veteran
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1802

                            #14
                            yep, perfect, thanks, the blind listening comes first, then we can monkey around....!

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                            • Ron_E
                              Seasoned Veteran
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1681

                              #15
                              My iron drivers arrived Wednesday and after breaking them in I've made some measurements. Nice woofers.

                              Eclipse W520R-8 TS Measurements.pdf

                              Ron
                              C-Note Iron Driver Build
                              The Cherry π's

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