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  • A Dayton 3 way idea (WMTMW), thoughts?

    I am thinking about building a 3 way Dayton speaker WMTMW and would really appreciate any feedback.
    The drivers I am looking to use are,

    Tweeter- Dayton RST28F-4
    Midrange-Dayton RS52FN-8
    Woofer- Dayton RS225P-8A

    The design would be for high SPL with good sound quality.

    Crossover points i am not 100% sure on. I was thinking 5000hz and 700hz?

    I would like to keep them at a 4 ohm load also.


  • #2
    What's your logic for the woofer choice? I'm almost scared to ask how loud you want to play these. OK, how loud? Why all Dayton? Contest? Cost?

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    • #3
      As loud as they allow me to take them, haha I like the woofer for its efficiency, paper cone and price point is pretty good.

      I am also shooting for a efficient design

      As far as all Daytons it would mainly be for cost.

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      • #4
        Seems like a basically solid idea. I like using drivers of all the same brand, the family resemblance adds style.

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        • #5
          Another skinny tower with 8" woofers...how about 2 RS270P-8As? (I say that only because I wish I could do it )

          Two questions that I don't know the answers too but would be interesting to hear those in the know:
          1. Do you need two of the mid-ranges or would one provide the SPL needed to match the woofers?
          2. That tweeter is capable of going quite low, but I know the mid-range gets good reviews. Any advantage to using the tweeter lower than 5K?

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          • #6
            or a proven MTM design based on the RS150 (they're out there) crossed actively to RS270s top and bottom. The active crossover could be plate amps for simplicity.

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            • #7
              I actually like the idea of using RS270P drivers instead of the RS225P. The cost difference would be the only thing holding me back on that though.

              I should add these will be cut off on the low end around 60 to 80 and the rest sent to my subwoofers.

              I will also add i am planning on driving them with my parasound 1205A at 4ohms 200watts a channel

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              • #8
                Are you "set" on the WmtmW idea? An mtmWW would help hold the tweeter "up" (at seated ear level).
                The 2nd mid-dome isn't really necessary from strictly an SPL level POV. A single needs about -2dB attenuation, whereas a pair would want -8dB.
                Even though you're not seeking "bottom-end", a 2.5cf vented box still seems borderline for a tmWW or mtmWW, and I don't know how you'd get the tweeters "up" w/a WmtmW w/out stands. What're your thoughts on box dimensions?

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                • #9
                  If you are going to use 2 mids in MTM configuration, I think you will need to cross much lower than 5000. Perhaps 2000?

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                  • #10
                    I'd recommend using the rs100p or 125p over the rs52. The rs52 are great but they don't go very low and have a big *** flange. Designing with the little woofers would be a bit easier.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chris Roemer View Post
                      Are you "set" on the WmtmW idea? An mtmWW would help hold the tweeter "up" (at seated ear level).
                      The 2nd mid-dome isn't really necessary from strictly an SPL level POV. A single needs about -2dB attenuation, whereas a pair would want -8dB.
                      Even though you're not seeking "bottom-end", a 2.5cf vented box still seems borderline for a tmWW or mtmWW, and I don't know how you'd get the tweeters "up" w/a WmtmW w/out stands. What're your thoughts on box dimensions?
                      Im actually going to build these into the wall where i can mount them at the correct ear level.

                      Im working with a 2x8 wall. Im hoping to be able to hide most of it but suspect i will have some of them sticking out a bit.

                      As far as running a mids i was hoping to have better power handleing with 2 of them splitting it?

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                      • #12
                        I can sell you a couple of Outlaw Audio M2200s, 300 watts @4 ohms. I mean if you want loud.

                        They induce toroid envy.

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                        • #13
                          If it will play loud enough for you, how about a tmw using RS270P-8, RS150P-8, and most any tweeter you want. The RS270P sealed needs a pretty small box if you cross to a sub.
                          If you wanted a mtmw, go with the RS100P-8 for mids.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by civit View Post
                            I'd recommend using the rs100p or 125p over the rs52. The rs52 are great but they don't go very low and have a big *** flange. Designing with the little woofers would be a bit easier.
                            I really like the way those 2in dome mids sound very accurate and effortless midrange.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chris Roemer View Post
                              Are you "set" on the WmtmW idea? An mtmWW would help hold the tweeter "up" (at seated ear level).
                              The 2nd mid-dome isn't really necessary from strictly an SPL level POV. A single needs about -2dB attenuation, whereas a pair would want -8dB.
                              Even though you're not seeking "bottom-end", a 2.5cf vented box still seems borderline for a tmWW or mtmWW, and I don't know how you'd get the tweeters "up" w/a WmtmW w/out stands. What're your thoughts on box dimensions?
                              Could i ask why the mids need to be turned down?

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