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  • Wolf
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    I used a 16AWG air-core coil on mine, and via PE, that is the closest in spec/dcr. If you change to the Super-Q, it's still $20, and the dcr is too low. The 18AWG dcr is too high. All of this can affect tonal balance, and there were only 4 choices, IIRC, the last being a more expensive 14AWG ERSE perfect lay. I listed the best candidate for the job, and copper costs money.

    Later,
    Wolf

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  • PWR RYD
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    A $30 inductor for a $29 woofer? Now that's a "Zinger"!

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  • Harvylogan
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    Originally posted by Wolf View Post

    Thanks, Harvy! You coming to MWAF?
    Yep.

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  • Wolf
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    Originally posted by Harvylogan View Post
    This is an outstanding build Wolf. It never ceases to amaze me what someone who knows what they are doing can do with minimalist design. I look forward to hearing them.
    Thanks, Harvy! You coming to MWAF?

    djg- Wow! The tweeters are near 2 for 1 pricing at $13.29 here at PE. $26.34 is regular price! All 4 drivers for this project currently cost $85.88 plus tax and shipping.

    Just doing up a simple BOM for the current cost using Q4 caps, the Jantzen 15AWG for woofer and Dayton 20AWG for tweeter, yields xover cost of $100.48.

    You can actually order all the parts for these, and not even break $200 for the pair. That is drivers and xover parts, coming to $186.36, and you still have enough left over for purchasing terminals and wire to round out the $200, excluding tax and shipping.

    2x of everything:
    295-484 SD215A-88 Dayton
    264-1460 DA25BG08-06 Peerless
    257-030 0.35mH/20AWG Dayton
    255-432 2.2mH/15AWG Jantzen
    027-116 6.8uF Q4 Audyn
    016-8.2 8.2 ohm/10W Xicon
    255-957 33 ohm/10W Jantzen
    027-120 22uF Q4 Audyn

    That is very affordable!
    Wolf

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  • djg
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    Tweeters on sale, cheap.

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  • Harvylogan
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    This is an outstanding build Wolf. It never ceases to amaze me what someone who knows what they are doing can do with minimalist design. I look forward to hearing them.

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  • Tarazzo
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    Originally posted by dcibel View Post

    I'm not very familiar with Xsim,so I don't know this "get file mod delay procedure", but with a single channel measurement system I would complete the 3-measurement process that has been put forth by Jeff B and others to determine the acoustic offset.
    This is why I use HolmImpulse and its " time lock" feature. Offsets are included in your measurements. No waste of time and effort adding tails, taking 3 measurements etc.

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  • wogg
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    Sweet. They weren't ugly before... can't wait for pics.

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  • Wolf
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    Wait until you guys see these at MWAF! They look a LOT better now, and it was extremely fun to do. Need some more polyurethane applied to all but the baffles, and then I'll work on those a smidge.

    No finished pics until MWAF,
    Wolf

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  • djg
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    MPC Zingers - YouTube

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  • djg
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    So........

    I bought this off ebay for 8 dollars. I wanted to take a photo like your Dragon Foals pic i saw, when I finished my version of your "Zingers".

    It is digitally remastered, Retroactive records, C 2005. Yes, limited 1000 units.

    I'll give it a listen later today when I'm alone.

    Edit: I'll have to hook up one of my big amps for this CD after I finish my "zinger" derivatives. I don't think the little SMSL will do it justice.
    Last edited by djg; 06-10-2019, 04:44 PM.

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  • Wolf
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    ...and if you like it, I would definitely look into getting this one too:
    https://www.discogs.com/Leaderdogs-F...elease/8233369

    The other CoD stuff is different, as every album sounds different. I like them all.

    Sorry for the sidetrack,
    Wolf

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  • Wolf
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    FWIW, I like the Brainchild:Mindwarp version over that of the later CircleOfDust:Brainchild and it's remaster.
    I see it says limited edition to 1000 copies. Care to share the release year from the back? Mine says p&C 1992 R.E.X. MUSIC INC. #7901426810

    I'm wondering if yours is a Retroactive Records version, ca. 2005 release. Nevermind, confirmed as I type:
    https://www.discogs.com/Brainchild-M...elease/5164628

    This is the one I have:
    https://www.discogs.com/Brainchild-M...release/102225

    I also have the original CoD release, but the songs are ever so slightly different and more polished. They dropped the intro to Telltale Crime by Geraldo, and the vocals on track 3 are less desirable:
    https://www.discogs.com/Circle-Of-Du...d/master/18537

    As well as the remaster by the artist himself from a couple years ago.
    https://fixtstore.com/products/circl...-digital-album

    I feel some things are better, some are worse. For SQ, the original Mindwarp takes the cake.

    I hope the SQ is faithful to the original on the reissue you have.

    Enjoy!
    Wolf

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  • djg
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    Haven't listened to it yet, I bought it for the photo op. I saw your Dragon Foals pic.

    Edit: If I start another pair of speakers before I clean the garage, I will suffer some verbal abuse.

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  • Wolf
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    Oh yeah!! You's gots some mind-warpage going on there! I haven't played that through them yet, but I plan to! What a GREAT album....
    ...and yes it is better than the remaster too. I had no idea anybody else on here had that.

    Later,
    Wolf

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