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What are your tips on bass in small rooms?
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Originally posted by Unbiasedsound View PostThis is one of the reasons I don't reply to Bradlys post anymore.
In a neighbouring thread we have Jeff B who has contributed a great deal to the hobby and used to be a regular here but appears unhappy with place and seems to have moved elsewhere. The forum does seem to be losing momentum a bit these days which is a shame.
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Originally posted by andy19191 View PostI guess it is the nature of forums that you get all sorts of people with all sorts of interests posting. I have no idea what the OP is trying to get out of his posts in this thread but it clearly isn't a conventional discussion to gather knowledge about the interesting and challenging topic of how to get a reasonable room response in the home at low frequencies.
In a neighbouring thread we have Jeff B who has contributed a great deal to the hobby and used to be a regular here but appears unhappy with place and seems to have moved elsewhere. The forum does seem to be losing momentum a bit these days which is a shame.
When I posted the Gr Research of Danny vids I didn't know there was a toxic feud going on between Danny and Jeff B UNTILL Jeff B brought it to every ones attention. Now even that post where Jeff called Danny toxic has been DELETED most likely by a mod as if he never said any of those things. Anyone who read this thread knows for a FACT Jeff called Danny toxic and personally attacked him. I guess mods think that if the post is deleted that it never happened. SMDH Worst part is Danny aint even here to defend himself. Not to mention that my thread is not about Dannys personal matters but his tech talk videos. Its seems any post about Jeff B will get deleted including this one. I have no problems with Jeff B. just the mods who erase post based on favoritism.
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Originally posted by Unbiasedsound View PostWhat I question about Bradlys post is his intentions. He asks questions and when we try to help him he turns around and stabs us in the back as if he knows more and or knows better.
Originally posted by Unbiasedsound View PostWhen I posted the Gr Research of Danny vids I didn't know there was a toxic feud going on between Danny and Jeff B UNTILL Jeff B brought it to every ones attention.
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Me: There's science here that says low frequencies are modal in small rooms, how do you deal with it?
Bro-Audio Dudes: Pfft, science. You just don't understand. We're the experts on all things audio.
Me: No, really. Here's the links to the research and work done by the largest audio company in the world to fix it.
Bro-Audio Dudes: You refuse to learn. We tried to help you then you stabbed us in the back!
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I've seen this before, here and elsewhere. Newbie reads a few books or articles and since it was unfamiliar to him before doing so thinks posting his newfound (to him) information will enlighten the rest of us. It doesn't occur to him that there are plenty of regulars here with experience equal to the sources he's quoting.
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Preface: I'm no expert on the science involved in this, I'd much rather talk electronics engineering. Acoustics and borderline fluid dynamics or whatever is going on are interesting, but I've not invested the time.
Content: Very, very few people are going to spend the time doing any level of modal analysis in a small room. If you're a bonafide acoustics engineer, your services are more likely to be contracted for larger venues and what not.
So what happens:
General folk get a cute speaker and place it where it looks nice, usually not even paying attention to stereo imaging.
Folks that hang out here will place for stereo imaging as best as possible, and move around with trial and error for low frequency response, add EQ for some minimal effect (noting room modes, standing waves, cancellations cannot be EQ'd out)
Most stop there and enjoy their systems just fine.
Some will go further and add bass traps, continue to mess with placement, or possibly even design a purpose built room. That's more common if you're into music production instead of or in addition to Hifi.
So in that context... My answer to your question is experiment and do your best. Use subs, multiples if possible to cover the bottom couple octaves evenly. Do the best you can with the gap up to the room frequency. That's the end.... the rest is an intellectual exercise that, while interesting, isn't worth bruising egos or getting angry about.Electronics engineer, woofer enthusiast, and musician.
Wogg Music
Published projects: PPA100 Bass Guitar Amp, ISO El-Cheapo Sub, Indy 8 2.1 powered sub, MicroSat, SuperNova Minimus
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If Earl said that he's wrong. Cabin Gain is well documented. For instance:
https://legacy.data-bass.com/data?page=content&id=2
I stopped reading anything from Earl years ago, when it became apparent to me that his opinions were anything but objective.
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Originally posted by wogg View PostContent: Very, very few people are going to spend the time doing any level of modal analysis in a small room. If you're a bonafide acoustics engineer, your services are more likely to be contracted for larger venues and what not.
Originally posted by wogg View PostSo what happens:
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Originally posted by andy19191 View PostTo do this reasonably well experimentally would take forever and involve a lot of bashing of wood. You are right that most DIY speaker folk don't have the knowledge to do this but those that have a day job as engineers are likely to have.
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