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  • #31
    Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

    Originally posted by dian1511 View Post
    Wow Dave,

    How do you do it? You do difficult, multiple angled cuts, keep your workshop organized and clean, and you're fast! I really need to see my therapist. Sometimes it takes me a whole week just to obssess about how and where to drill holes for the screws.

    BTW, might there be an issue with wood movement? Perhaps I missed this in this or your design thread.

    Great work!

    Darren
    Thanks Darren. I would have to say the trickiest part of the multi angles is when I need to cut the opposite side and the miter box only flips one way. I really wish I had bought the Hitachi miter box that flips both directions. Leaves me scratching my head sometimes. I had to do a lot of the miters free hand on the table saw because of this and not enough extension to make a full cut. I will just say there were a few cuts that really made me nervous! Especially the top pieces. I will just say there was a lot of "don't try this at home cuts".
    There is a few cross grain glue ups and I am sure I will see some movement but I don't think enough to hurt anything. All the wood I used has been drying about 15 years or more and all the end glue ups are at least at 45 degree and plus cut on a 45 degree miter. I used the same wood as I did on my Mini Surround build. I did some cross grain gluing. So far no movement. With the wood grain direction change if there is some it will be hard to spot.




    Here are the tops cut and glued on.





    Tops with removable baffle in place. Next I will need to shape the tops to the sides and fine tune the front baffle to fit more evenly. then cut the driver holes.




    Just so you don't get the false impression that I keep a super clean shop. This is mostly scrape from this speaker build and its going to get even uglier. I start a custom made cupola with windows for on top of a "witches hat" roof in my shop tomorrow.




    Just checked today on the stainless laminated panel since I ran short. A piece 4" x 8' runs $140. crap! I need a 3" x 20" piece. So much for this build being left over stuff from jobs.
    Dave
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    • #32
      Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

      Got them sanded with 80 grit then 180 on my DA. Did some testing with stain on some scrap today. I was going to try to darken the hickory so it blended better with the walnut, but after sanding then I think I am going to stain everything the same so the hickory will be contrasting. I am thinking mixing ebony with red mahogany. Anybody have any better ideas? I was shooting for a dark look to contrast with the stainless.

      Next I will get the baffles cut out, drivers in, vent made up and backs on. I should be ready to start measuring then.
      Dave





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      • #33
        Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

        Dave, Is that real stainless or is it like wilsonart or formica laminate? Nice craftsmanship, I'm looking forward to seeing these completed.

        Dan

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        • #34
          Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

          Originally posted by danklugherz View Post
          Dave, Is that real stainless or is it like wilsonart or formica laminate? Nice craftsmanship, I'm looking forward to seeing these completed.

          Dan
          Thanks Dan. It's laminate. not sure which brand. I am going to check on getting a sheet. Kraftmaid wants $140 for a 4" x 8' strip. They call it toe kick. I'm guessing I can get a sheet for the same price.
          Dave
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          • #35
            Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

            Alsacorp might have it.
            Wolf
            "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
            "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
            "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
            "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

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            • #36
              Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

              this is an exciting build. cant wait to see them at iowa(hint hint) maybe you can pick up wolf on your way.
              " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

              Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
              Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

              http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
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              • #37
                Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                I may have them ready for InDIYana.
                Tracked down the laminate last night. It is a Formica brand M2178 Brushed Stainless Steel. Called Home Depot today to see if I could order a sheet. Formica has 1000 shts back ordered due in in August. That and they want over $300 for a 4x8 sheet. Checked Wolfs link and they do have a peal and stick stainless look. I could get enough of that to do all of the strips over for about $50. Just not sure how authentic looking it would be.
                No luck with Wilson Arts.

                Just found it from Nevamar. NMXT002T V3 4X8 sheet. $97 plus $60 to ship. Total $156.00

                At least I end up with a full sheet versus the 4" x 8' pcs. for $140.

                Man thats a lot of money to spend for needing a 3"x 21" strip. I'm guessing if I order it the color will be off enough that I will have to redo all the other strips. That's also more money then I have in all the drivers.
                Dave
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                • #38
                  Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                  Alsa does have a 'sample' pack or option they can send you first.
                  That may help make up your mind.
                  Wolf
                  "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                  "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                  "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                  "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                  *InDIYana event website*

                  Photobucket pages:
                  http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

                  My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                  http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                  • #39
                    Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                    Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                    Alsa does have a 'sample' pack or option they can send you first.
                    That may help make up your mind.
                    Wolf
                    If I'm not mistaking the sample pack was $85.
                    Thanks Dave
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                    • #40
                      Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                      Originally posted by davepellegrene View Post
                      If I'm not mistaking the sample pack was $85.
                      Thanks Dave
                      Oh- I guess I don't remember that being that high.
                      Ouch!
                      Wolf
                      "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                      "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                      "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                      "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                      *InDIYana event website*

                      Photobucket pages:
                      http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

                      My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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                      • #41
                        Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                        Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                        Oh- I guess I don't remember that being that high.
                        Ouch!
                        Wolf
                        Yeah, I'm not seeing a cheap way out of this. I'm not even sure the $97 sheet of Nevamar has a real layer of stainless.
                        This is a pic of the kitchen I had the stainless toe kick left over from. Toe kick is the part that recesses under the cabinets so you don't stub your toes. The sides and doors of these cabinets are suppose to resemble stainless but if you put the real thing up to it you can tell its not real. So the Nevamar may be a third of the cost of the Formica because it's not the real thing.
                        I may contact a fabricating shop and see if I can get a piece that may match.
                        I keep looking at my stainless kitchen trash can. I could zip a strip out of the back side and the wife would probably never no. :D :eek:



                        Here is a pic with the foam sprayed in between the layers of roofing membrane.




                        Even thought the foam will be covered with the back I decided to clean up the foam and put a layer of caulk to seal it up. Each one of the inner cabinets will have a sealed back on them and then there will be another one piece back over those. with a layer of roofing membrane between.
                        Dave


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                        • #42
                          Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                          Hey Dave didn't you know you are supposed to paint them red?

                          Remember the words to the Star Spangled Banner?

                          "And the rockit's red glare, the bombs bursting in air"

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                          • #43
                            Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                            Hey Dave didn't you know you are supposed to paint them red?

                            Remember the words to the Star Spangled Banner?

                            "And the rockit's red glare, the bombs bursting in air"
                            Believe me with the cost of the stainless they may end up red. Enough celebrating this weekend I may strap some bottle rockets on them and see if I can get them off the ground. Wonder how many it would take to get a hundred pounds off the ground.

                            Dave
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                            • #44
                              Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                              seventeen hundred and seventy six
                              Last edited by [email protected]; 07-03-2010, 12:43 AM. Reason: oops
                              " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                              Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                              Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                              http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                              http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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                              • #45
                                Re: "Rock Its" Build Thread

                                Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                                eighteen hundred and seventy six
                                Are you sure seventeen hundred and seventy six won't me enough?
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