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Pictures from Dayton 2010

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  • #31
    Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

    You were there???
    this is great...er, yeh, sittin' in one of the judges chairs :D

    I do look forward to reading the comment sheets. They are a work in progress. It is the journey and the effect we have on others as we pass. ;)
    Mongo only pawn in game of life
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    • #32
      Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

      Originally posted by edlafontaine View Post
      this is great...er, yeh, sittin' in one of the judges chairs :D

      I do look forward to reading the comment sheets. They are a work in progress. It is the journey and the effect we have on others as we pass. ;)
      Musta been Michael then. See- I didn't even know he *WAS* "Panomaniac"....

      I don't really visit diyaudio much....
      Wolf

      BTW- I am uploading pictures, and will write my essay shortly....
      "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
      "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
      "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
      "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

      *InDIYana event website*

      Photobucket pages:
      http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

      My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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      • #33
        Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

        For who the winners are:

        <200 -- Jim Griffin
        >200 -- Bogdan Petrescu
        Dayton -- Ed Froste
        Unlimited -- Dan Neubec

        As to what specificies of speakers I hope the designers will post information.

        For my Speakers The FCSB, a 3-way with RS28F, (2)ND140-4, RS270. The RS270 is a sidefire in a 72" TL.
        Last edited by Froste; 07-11-2010, 08:32 PM. Reason: mids
        Ed
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        • #34
          Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

          Panomaniac posted:
          craftsmanship and imaging
          There is this thing about imaging. The toe-in I chose was questioned by another in attendance. I took the implication to be that it was extreme. Now I have this feedback that it was to some benefit...

          On the ride home I thought about this: how little I know...

          I envision a way to explore this "imaging" thing.

          turntables, lazy susan bearings under round platforms for each speaker...both speakers facing the back wall @ initial set-up...a rope around both platforms,attached to them, crossed into a figure eight when viewed from above...with a tag line allowing the speakers to be rotated from the listening position...the figure eight makes the speakers toe-in together or toe-out together. listen or measure...learn

          Thanks to all for the comments, even the ones I have yet to hear. Bring 'em
          Mongo only pawn in game of life
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          Ed

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          • #35
            Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

            There was an entry ..I think in the 200 class I thought very good..It was painted a tan-orange color had a broken spike..it was one of my favorites.I just mention it if anyone remembers who's that was..

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            • #36
              Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

              Yessiree- Those were Shawn A's "Voxxers", using the Dynavox 6.5 and the Usher 9930.
              Shawn loves orange....
              Later,
              Wolf
              "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
              "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
              "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
              "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

              *InDIYana event website*

              Photobucket pages:
              http://photobucket.com/Wolf-Speakers_and_more

              My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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              • #37
                Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                Anyone got a full pic of the pair painted like 'Ole' Glory'?
                "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." --Winston Churchill

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                • #38
                  Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                  Here is Shawn's






                  and Ole Glory


                  Ed L. I would have liked to hear a bit different music thru your speakers. Plus be able listen longer!
                  Ed
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                  • #39
                    Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                    Sweet! Thanks! Are those the 10" Genelecs that were on BO a while back?
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." --Winston Churchill

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                    • #40
                      Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                      ttan98,

                      <$200 is a bipole?

                      Yes, they are my MLTL bipolar speakers. I used CSS FR125S drivers (actually in my case FR125S and WR125S front and back). You can add a rear mounted super tweeter for a little more treble fill in the upper octave if you wish.

                      Jim

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                      • #41
                        Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                        I agree on the music selection. The first set was good, the others of not much use. But the other 2 judges liked them better, so we went on with them. I almost asked to got back to the first set, wish now that I had. :(

                        As others have mentioned above, the second two sets really didn't test the bigger speakers.

                        First set, first song - was from the soundtrack "Oh Brother Where Art Thou?" Alison Krause and choir singing "Down to the River to Pray." I didn't choose it, but was glad it was included because it's been a favorite test track of mine for years. I've hauled it around to a lot of shows. Very subtle and shows even the slightest changes in a system.

                        Yes, I do get around to a lot of audio shows and hear a LOT of speakers. RMAF, LSAF, the SHOW, CES, Puget Sound speaker contest, Capital Audiofest, Montreal, Dave D's Vancouver Island bash, etc. The speakers at the P.E. show where easily the equal or better than 90% of the commercial products I hear.

                        The Planar speakers were remarkable. So clean! I didn't want to stop listening. He said they went down to 80Hz, but it sounded lower. Didn't get a chance to talk to him. Hope to hear more from him in the future. I'd own a pair.

                        Shawns' were very nice (SP25). Maybe the only pair where the tweeter could actually have come up a bit. Nice work.

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by edlafontaine View Post
                          There is this thing about imaging. The toe-in I chose was questioned by another in attendance. I took the implication to be that it was extreme. Now I have this feedback that it was to some benefit...
                          Unthinkable but with constant directivity, it expands the image rendition zone -- for those listening off center, the phantom image is stabilized at the center location. It must really be heard to be appreciated. The concept dates back to the 50's, actually; these modern designs allow this to be easily achieved.

                          I've been considering setting up the figure-8 variable toe-in rig myself. In theory, we should be able to balance the trade-off between imaging and spaciousness for any given listening space and listening distance via that adjustment. Studies indicate we'll initially favor spaciousness, even at the sacrifice of spectral and spatial accuracy, but over time, will dial back the room influence in favor of the latter, with recognition that the sameness of artificial spaciousness with all program material, while pleasurable, grows somewhat oppressive over time.... :rolleyes:

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                          • #43
                            Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                            Congratulations to Dan (and Paul Kittinger (?) for his Transmission Line design for the RSS265)!

                            Dan's got a thread over at HTGuide on the Blades. However I'm not claiming the crossover design posted there was the one he presented at the DIY.

                            I only wish New Zealand was closer. It would be great to attend, meet and learn.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Pictures from Dayton 2010

                              eye candies... hmmm... you guys made my day, especially after Oovertime today...

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by Jim Griffin View Post
                                ttan98,

                                <$200 is a bipole?

                                Yes, they are my MLTL bipolar speakers. I used CSS FR125S drivers (actually in my case FR125S and WR125S front and back). You can add a rear mounted super tweeter for a little more treble fill in the upper octave if you wish.

                                Jim
                                Congrats, for building an excellent sounding speakers for such a small amount of outlay. Not easy to achieve.

                                I heard about your speakers from another forum, I think you should publish the design of your speakers, I believe many enthusiasts would be interested in building them.

                                Cheers.

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