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  • #91
    Re: My RS180 MTM Design

    Originally posted by billschulte View Post
    as an uninformed observer of this site, I have been following this section closely. I would like to do a bi-amp of a single Dayton RS180(8 or 4) and found Jeff Bagby's Denhams response shaping network. Does anyone have a network like this worked up for a single RS 180?
    I am skipping the bi-amp stuff above...Jeff would this passive crossover work for a single RS-180-4?

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    • #92
      Re: My RS180 MTM Design

      Originally posted by billschulte View Post
      I am skipping the bi-amp stuff above...Jeff would this passive crossover work for a single RS-180-4?
      The lowpass and highpass sections will work fine, but you will need to pad down the tweeter about 3dB.
      Click here for Jeff Bagby's Loudspeaker Design Software

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      • #93
        Re: My RS180 MTM Design

        sorry i am late to the party, but is there a kit for this?

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        • #94
          Re: My RS180 MTM Design

          Originally posted by smokarz View Post
          sorry i am late to the party, but is there a kit for this?
          Just what I posted at the top of the thread.
          Click here for Jeff Bagby's Loudspeaker Design Software

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          • #95
            Re: My RS180 MTM Design

            Originally posted by Jeff B. View Post
            As I pointed out in other posts in this thread - my design was with the RS28AS.
            Back when I worked up designs for the RS28A and RS28AS versions, I found that they were not interchangeable. YMMV.

            C
            diVine Audio

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            • #96
              Re: My RS180 MTM Design

              Originally posted by cjd View Post
              Back when I worked up designs for the RS28A and RS28AS versions, I found that they were not interchangeable. YMMV.

              C
              That's what I thought too based on the published curves. However, someone who measured both under the same conditions appearred to contradict this by showing them to be very close in response. Did you measure them yourself and establish that they would not interchange? I would have, but I didn't think to do it when I had both here at the same time.

              Jeff
              Click here for Jeff Bagby's Loudspeaker Design Software

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              • #97
                Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                Originally posted by Jeff B. View Post
                That's what I thought too based on the published curves. However, someone who measured both under the same conditions appearred to contradict this by showing them to be very close in response. Did you measure them yourself and establish that they would not interchange? I would have, but I didn't think to do it when I had both here at the same time.

                Jeff
                I honestly don't remember if I had one on hand along the way or not but I think I did not. :o I think I did some fiddling with someone elses measured data, not my own. The MTM I put together (RS150) was definitely using PE's published FRD/ZMA from back when they offered those, along with modeled diffraction, etc (though the specifics of the process, the exact diffraction and baffle step, were backed up with measured data on the plain RS28A as well as the 27TDFC so I have a high level of confidence in its accuracy.) It does come down to the particulars of the crossover though, and I never did look into why. The lower the crossover, and the steeper the slopes, the more trouble.

                C
                diVine Audio

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                • #98
                  Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                  I'm not sure how much action this thread is still getting but I was wondering if this crossover would be kosher to use with the extended bass towers documented in other threads? I was looking at building the 1.7cu ft Nat P's, but stumbled across Jeff's new design. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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                  • #99
                    Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                    Originally posted by coniacvsop View Post
                    I'm not sure how much action this thread is still getting but I was wondering if this crossover would be kosher to use with the extended bass towers documented in other threads? I was looking at building the 1.7cu ft Nat P's, but stumbled across Jeff's new design. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
                    I guess I don't read many threads anymore, so I'm not sure I know exactly what you are referring to. Are you talking about building my speaker in a larger tower version to extend the bass? If so, it should work well if you keep the baffle width about the same and get the tweeter to the right listening height. (You might want to weight the bottom fairly well to avoid any top-heavy issues.)
                    Click here for Jeff Bagby's Loudspeaker Design Software

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                    • Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                      I built mine in larger enclosures , I believe around 1.6 cubic feet , kept the baffle width and driver layout the same , and they sound incredible.

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                      • Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                        Yes Jeff. It seems like there have been several versions of this MTM in a larger bass extended tower design. Thanks for the response, your crossover looks like a relief compared to the other versions I've seen. I'm still a newbie, in the process of getting my feet wet with the vented Tri Trix design for my father. I wanted to build some towers that would sound excellent and that I would be happy with for some time to come....your design seems to fit that bill pretty well. I have a Dayton Titanic sub that I built, so I wanted my my mains to play with some authority down to at least 60HZ where I would cross them over. Thanks again.

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                        • Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                          Mike. What diameter and length port did you use? Firing Down? Rear? Forward? From what I understand, these are incredible sounding speakers for the price. They will be in equal HT and music duties. I just really wanted to build soemthing that would satisfy me for a while to come without the itch to upgrade in the near future. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

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                          • Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                            http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=260-480

                            ^^^^^^^^
                            I used that port , untrimmed , on the back baffle directly behind the tweeter.

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                            • Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                              Great. Thank you.

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                              • Re: My RS180 MTM Design

                                Well...after forever, I've finally gotten around to starting this build as a cc. I'm building it to match the theme of my un-named all active mains (pics). I'll do a quick couple of photos and post them in the Project Gallery section when they are complete. Thanks again, Jeff.. for the design and your assistance with some questions a while back.
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