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    Hey, you guys remember them old floor council stereos with the top that would flip up? You had your turn table, 8 track and tuner. For years I have been wanting to get my paws on one! I found it in the paper today! All I have to do is pick it up? No charge. The guy says that the record player needs a new needle.
    Im taking everything out. In place of the 8-track: a new, up to date top loading CD player. The old receiver out, an HD receiver in. Ihave a brand new DJ style turn table that will be used as well. The speakers? What to do here?
    What do you guys think? The Cd player and the turn table will run into the HD receiver. The receiver requires an 8ohm load. This thing sits a little above 3ft. I want the speakers inside, just like the original design. There is at least 1.5 cube ft for drivers on both sides and I want this thing to support its own bottom end. Lookin like a 3-way, However, like I said, this council sits about 3 ft high. This puts the drivers at a fairly low level in relation to the ear. Could I use a slight upward tilt when installing the new drivers? Any way, any ideas you guys have would be great. A couple thousand heads is always better than one head running on 2 pots of coffee a smoking habbit and a morgage. One limitation: From the outside, this council needs to retain its vintage look but the inside is fair game for a modern hostile take-over.

    I know that most of you are a creative bunch and look at things at afew angles I have not discovered myself. So please feel free to chime in with dislikes of the project direction as well.

    Thank you all very much,

    cole

    Disregard this same post further down the baord. I misplaced it as a response and not an original post.

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    Re: Modern hostile take over


    > Hey, you guys remember them old floor
    > council stereos with the top that would flip
    > up? You had your turn table, 8 track and
    > tuner. For years I have been wanting to get
    > my paws on one! I found it in the paper
    > today! All I have to do is pick it up? No
    > charge. The guy says that the record player
    > needs a new needle.
    > Im taking everything out. In place of the
    > 8-track: a new, up to date top loading CD
    > player. The old receiver out, an HD receiver
    > in. Ihave a brand new DJ style turn table
    > that will be used as well. The speakers?
    > What to do here?
    > What do you guys think? The Cd player and
    > the turn table will run into the HD
    > receiver. The receiver requires an 8ohm
    > load. This thing sits a little above 3ft. I
    > want the speakers inside, just like the
    > original design. There is at least 1.5 cube
    > ft for drivers on both sides and I want this
    > thing to support its own bottom end. Lookin
    > like a 3-way, However, like I said, this
    > council sits about 3 ft high. This puts the
    > drivers at a fairly low level in relation to
    > the ear. Could I use a slight upward tilt
    > when installing the new drivers? Any way,
    > any ideas you guys have would be great. A
    > couple thousand heads is always better than
    > one head running on 2 pots of coffee a
    > smoking habbit and a morgage. One
    > limitation: From the outside, this council
    > needs to retain its vintage look but the
    > inside is fair game for a modern hostile
    > take-over.

    > I know that most of you are a creative bunch
    > and look at things at afew angles I have not
    > discovered myself. So please feel free to
    > chime in with dislikes of the project
    > direction as well.

    > Thank you all very much,

    > cole

    > Disregard this same post further down the
    > baord. I misplaced it as a response and not
    > an original post.

    LOL. I totally wanted to do this with my Grandmother's old console stereo. It was a Magnavox with fiberglass (I kid you not) enclosures inside.

    The problem with these things is they sound like a jukebox. The mids are usually lacking and fire straight out the front and the woofers fire out the ends. Tweeters are optional.

    I think I would rebuild the internal baffles for the front speakers so they had an angle upwards. Retain the outer grillwork so it looks flat, though.

    Something like this crude drawing (ignore the dots):

    b.....g
    .a....r
    ..f....i
    ...f...l
    ....l..l
    .....ee

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    • #3
      Re: Modern hostile take over


      I did the same thing to my parent's old Magnavox console, too, only theirs had the styrofoam speakers inside :()

      Frank

      > LOL. I totally wanted to do this with my
      > Grandmother's old console stereo. It was a
      > Magnavox with fiberglass (I kid you not)
      > enclosures inside.

      > The problem with these things is they sound
      > like a jukebox. The mids are usually lacking
      > and fire straight out the front and the
      > woofers fire out the ends. Tweeters are
      > optional.

      > I think I would rebuild the internal baffles
      > for the front speakers so they had an angle
      > upwards. Retain the outer grillwork so it
      > looks flat, though.

      > Something like this crude drawing (ignore
      > the dots):

      > b.....g
      > .a....r
      > ..f....i
      > ...f...l
      > ....l..l
      > .....ee



      (Originally posted by: Frank)

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      • #4
        TV-Radio Console - Finest Sound System Ever Made *NM*



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        • #5
          Curt's Speaker Design Works

          "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
          - Aristotle

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          • #6
            Re: War council: *PIC*




            I like your subtleness :-). Here's a pic of the type I used to have long ago. Or I should say my parents since I was still a kid.

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              • #8
                Oh, and....


                just having fun with you about the Lafayette catalog. Man you came thru again! We even fixed up the sound stage on this baby! This was somewhat of a concern as a slanted speaker would cause some wild baffle difraction problems. So we adjust the on axis response in the xo and lift the sound stage by way of ambient speakers. Amazing contribution Curt,

                Thanks again!

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                • #9
                  Re: War council:


                  Im getting goose bumps lookin at that! I love the whole simple and vintage look. Merging that concept with the high end components of today seems like a practical solution, as Im always confronted with the issue of were to stash gear. I could always plug in some real floor standers for critical listening.


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                  • #10
                    Makes for an interesting subwoofer cabinet too


                    I had one of the old consoles about 15 years ago and I totally gutted the thing. Plopped in a couple of lousy 12" woofers and let 'er rip. Yep, it sure sounded like poopy but I didn't care. It did rumble things up pretty well while playing Super Mario Brothers at the wee hours of the morning. Those were the days.

                    shawn
                    My favorite woofer is a Labrador retriever.

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                    • #11
                      Re: War council:


                      Yes, your post definitely brought back some nostalgic moments for me. I think it's a wonderful use of resources. Keep us posted on this and I would like to see a pic when your done.

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                      • #12
                        To let you know how retarted i am.


                        My father had a 60ish model RCA console. It had a 25" color tube TV in the middle that was covered with two oak and fabric doors. The right side flipped up to show a working reciever, 8 track, and all the knobs you could ever want to turn. The left side flipped up to expose the working record player, and enough room to house 20 LP's and a dozen or so 8 tracks. All worked except the tv would go in and out. Had to give it away when i moved to a three story apartment. The moral to the story is that it hit so hard when i helped load that 7' long beast, i looked behind it. There was on each side two 10"x15" squared magnet woofers and 4 odd sized others. But there was no back to this unit at all. Man i wished i still had it....

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                        • #13
                          Re: Lafayette catalog? *PIC*




                          > Anyway....

                          > Bam! Im getting excited! I built a surround
                          > speaker using the same idea. With the
                          > ambient full ranger mounted in the back.
                          > Maybe I could even mount a switch to reverse
                          > the polarity of the ambient speaker to give
                          > a Di-pole effect if one so desired from time
                          > to time. After all, it is just a matter of
                          > reversing the polarity from the mains to the
                          > ambient right?

                          Yup, the dipole/bipole switch could be easily added. Sounds like you are going to have fun with this one...

                          BTW, for the lobe to angle up from the baffle, the tweeter will need to be connected out out of phase for a 1st order BW, and out of phase for a 3rd BW

                          -And in case anyone was wondering what the heck a Layayette catalog was:

                          Curt's Speaker Design Works

                          "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
                          - Aristotle

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                          • #14
                            Re: Oh, and....


                            > just having fun with you about the
                            > Lafayette catalog. Man you came thru
                            > again! We even fixed up the sound stage on
                            > this baby! This was somewhat of a concern as
                            > a slanted speaker would cause some wild
                            > baffle difraction problems. So we adjust the
                            > on axis response in the xo and lift the
                            > sound stage by way of ambient speakers.
                            > Amazing contribution Curt,

                            Don't count your contributors before they hatch. Sonetimes they may be scrambled....

                            Oh, and don't forget to mount the ambient drivers so you can pivot them to vary the up/side dispersion angle. ;^)

                            C
                            Curt's Speaker Design Works

                            "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
                            - Aristotle

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                            • #15
                              Leave somethin for me to come up with


                              > Oh, and don't forget to mount the ambient
                              > drivers so you can pivot them to vary the
                              > up/side dispersion angle. ;^)

                              > C

                              Damn good idea! The 2 walls running parallel the unit would play a major part in the percieved sound as well. The adjustable ambience speaker would help us dial-in the soundstage in relation to room. Tis shape'n up to be a very hostile takeover indeed my freind. A simple quiet vintage exterior and a "Pimp my 60's council stereo" interior!

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