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    Im looking to do a DIY build and im wondering what designs you would recommend for my application, and see if there's anything iv'e missed while searching around myself. Readily posted or purchasable designs.

    As a little backround, I can build just about anything as a professional carpenter. What I cant do is measure and build something from scratch. Im short on the equipment, and short on the knowledge to pull it off to a high end degree.

    The intended use is stereo audio speakers for living room music, and the tv will run through it. Something that might have a center channel design would be nice, but wont hold much wieght. Not too concerned with the size. Most desired trait is just a reference level system with high end top of the line drivers, regardless if its cheap or expensive.
    Main desired aspects would be:
    a.) Lowest distortion possible. Extreme clarity and detailed speaker set
    b.) Able to be positioned close to the wall (not something must be placed 2-4 feet out).
    c.) Intended listening position about 6-10 feet away. But I want to to have decent dispertion characteristics so that I can walk around the room, or have a get together and not have to worry about being in the mission critical sweet spot.
    d.) reasonable bass that will sound good with all ends of music without a dedicated sub.

    Combined crossover + driver cost sub $2000 for the pair.

    Whats would be your thoughts? Thus far my top choice has been Dan N's Echelons.

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    Re: High end design recoomendations

    Dan's echelons are a fantastic choice, the only caveat being the woofer is NLA.

    You have a lot of choices in that price range. I will also recommend the Tarkus and my own Intrepids. No sub is needed with the Intrepids to he sure.
    https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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    • #3
      Re: High end design recoomendations

      The matching center channel desire removes most DIY designs from consideration. I would have said the statements, but that requires some room behind the speakers which you already said you cant do.

      The next thing that comes to mind is the Dennis Murphy/Paul K designed ER18 MTM

      http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...kittinger.html

      The ribbon tweeter version has a matching center design

      http://meniscusaudio.com/er15-center-p-1388.html

      http://meniscusaudio.com/er18mtm-rib...ir-p-1323.html

      If you really arent worried about a center, there is more high end designs here then anywhere I've seen

      http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Diy_Lou...-constructions
      http://jaysspeakerpage.weebly.com/

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      • #4
        Re: High end design recoomendations

        echelons are a big leap into this hobby. i can make happen most cabs in a few hours but the bracing on those...days.not hating, but those are a great sounding nightmare, regardless of skill set. good luck with the project.

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        • #5
          Re: High end design recoomendations

          Thanks for the replies everyone checking out all the links!

          In response to kanemack. Cabinet difficulty is not a problem for me. I have a endless supply of professional/commercial level woodworking tools and hvlp setup. The box is literally the part I'll be having fun at! Woodworking is my hobby

          I've been looking around to see if I could find anything with a raal in the kit, but seems most of those are all professional completed products.

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          • #6
            Re: High end design recoomendations

            PM sent .
            donc

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            • #7
              Re: High end design recoomendations

              There's no doubt Dan's Echelons are great, but they really can't be used close to the wall, needing room to breathe (I'm pretty sure).
              Paul


              Originally posted by isaeagle4031 View Post
              Dan's echelons are a fantastic choice, the only caveat being the woofer is NLA.

              You have a lot of choices in that price range. I will also recommend the Tarkus and my own Intrepids. No sub is needed with the Intrepids to he sure.

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              • #8
                Re: High end design recoomendations

                I have a whole slew of designs that would work well for you also, specifically the Khan family, which are intended for near-wall placement and have both center and surround options specifically, but also work well with the other designs I've done using the RS series drivers.

                http://www.divine-audio.com

                C
                diVine Audio

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                • #9
                  Re: High end design recoomendations

                  I'll be double checking this with Dan as well. With the open back it was one of my thoughts.

                  Thanks for the link CJD!

                  Originally posted by Paul K. View Post
                  There's no doubt Dan's Echelons are great, but they really can't be used close to the wall, needing room to breathe (I'm pretty sure).
                  Paul

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                  • #10
                    Re: High end design recoomendations

                    Tarkus is a good choice, and I designed the Armadillo CC to complement it, and collaborated with Bolland83 to design the L'il 'Dillo's, a TM based on the Armadillo, and voiced to complement the Tarkus as surrounds. No sub needed with Tarkus, either.
                    You go your way, I'll go mine. I don't care if we get there on time.

                    ~Pink Floyd

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                    • #11
                      Re: High end design recoomendations

                      Well if you really are going to spend that kind of money you could look at something like this. Lots of other cool designs at his website. His designs sometimes stir up a bit of controversy, but they are definitely high end....

                      http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/Jenzen-NEXT.htm

                      I'd happily share my speaker design with you, but it has really only been heard by me and the designer so I am a bit hesitant to recommend that anyone build it given the cost involved.
                      Loren Jones

                      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...-sound-drivers

                      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...for-live-sound

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                      • #12
                        Re: High end design recoomendations

                        close-to-wall wd have to include drivers that work well in a sealed enclosure, these http://www.scan-speak.dk/datasheet/pdf/23w-4557t00.pdf perhaps

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                        • #13
                          Re: High end design recoomendations

                          Why? A front (or even many rear ported designs can be placed close to the wall). Its all about the BSC as far as I'm aware. Designs intended to be near the wall need to have less BSC to avoid getting thick in the bass and midbass. That and the fact that the popularity of open back mid designs is increasing and those won't work well near wall. The Troels design I linked above is available with an open back mid transmission line and an option for a rear ported mid which can optionally be stuffed so there is no rear radiation. I'm sure some gurus can chime in.

                          Originally posted by bill poster View Post
                          close-to-wall wd have to include drivers that work well in a sealed enclosure, these http://www.scan-speak.dk/datasheet/pdf/23w-4557t00.pdf perhaps
                          Loren Jones

                          http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...-sound-drivers

                          http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...for-live-sound

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