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  • Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

    Not making any personal judgements here, but saw this posted on another forum and though folks here might be interested:

    http://matrixhifi.com/contenedor_ppec_eng.htm
    Dan N.

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    Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

    Originally posted by dlneubec View Post
    Not making any personal judgements here, but saw this posted on another forum and though folks here might be interested:

    http://matrixhifi.com/contenedor_ppec_eng.htm
    That's an interesting blog, thanks for sharing. The test results would hugely be dictated by the speakers they used, and I've never heard those speakers before.
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      Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

      Originally posted by mattsk8 View Post
      That's an interesting blog, thanks for sharing. The test results would hugely be dictated by the speakers they used, and I've never heard those speakers before.
      The speakers are there to act as a constant, however that is not always acceptable to the anti-DBX'ers.
      Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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        Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

        Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
        The speakers are there to act as a constant, however that is not always acceptable to the anti-DBX'ers.
        I'm not anti DBX at all, but certain speakers aren't capable of playing those subtle differences.
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          Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

          They have WAF in Spain.

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            Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

            Stuff like this makes me smile
            http://jaysspeakerpage.weebly.com/

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              Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

              Originally posted by mattsk8 View Post
              I'm not anti DBX at all, but certain speakers aren't capable of playing those subtle differences.
              Yup. If there are differences in electronics, it will almost certainly take very revealing speakers to do a proper test.

              Francis
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                Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                Its not like ATC makes low quality speakers... ATC drivers are top notch and that Vifa tweeter has very clean measurements.
                http://jaysspeakerpage.weebly.com/

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                  Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                  Originally posted by Jay1 View Post
                  Its not like ATC makes low quality speakers... ATC drivers are top notch and that Vifa tweeter has very clean measurements.
                  Yep, very high reputation on the ATC monitors.

                  The results of this test are definitely not the 50/50 results some might expect - but the results may not be what people want.
                  Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                    Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                    Originally posted by dlneubec View Post
                    Not making any personal judgements here, but saw this posted on another forum and though folks here might be interested:

                    http://matrixhifi.com/contenedor_ppec_eng.htm
                    We've been over this one, poorly designed systems will sound poor.

                    When I see people can actually set up a proper system, then I will be interested in their results. The 700 dollar system had all the advantages to sound better but it sucks just like the high end system.
                    “Never ask people about your work.”
                    ― Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead

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                      Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                      Thanks Dave -

                      Great article. Good to know before I dropped my 401K money on $$$ components.
                      I think we should do more DBTs at meet-ups - like for capacitors comparisons, for instance.

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                        Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                        I'd love to take part in a DBT comparing the various classes of solid state and tube amps!

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                          Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                          Originally posted by donradick View Post
                          ... I think we should do more DBTs at meet-ups - like for capacitors comparisons, for instance.
                          Don't forget about audiophile power cables. :D
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                            Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

                            Originally posted by doctormorbius View Post
                            Don't forget about audiophile power cables. :D
                            Those aren't effective unless you use audiophile grade wall outlets ;)

                            Francis
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                              Re: Front End Blind Test: $12k vs $700 systems

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