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  • Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

    Can you spot what's wrong with this picture? Wonder how many of these PE has in stock. I ordered two, only one came in this way. Guess the best thing to do is contact them over the phone and make them aware of the problem, and get another one coming this way. Kind of a bummer though, these two drivers matched within a couple of percent on the DATS. Don't know if I will get that lucky with the next one.

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    Hard to believe this made it all the way through their manufacturing process without someone noticing the problem. I am not real familiar with the Casting process, are the holes part of that tooling or do they drill the holes after the parts are cast?
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    Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

    Just drill it out . . . how hard can that be ? ? ?
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    • #3
      Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

      Originally posted by Deward Hastings View Post
      Just drill it out . . . how hard can that be ? ? ?
      You have to be kidding.

      He needs to send it back and get a matching woofer. PE will accommodate. They may even just tell him to keep that defective unit.
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        Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

        There's a hole in the wrong spot, right? Is it not drilled all the way through? Must have slipped. Maybe the QC guy jumped right before this one came through.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...1-12-hour.html

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        • #5
          Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

          Originally posted by Deward Hastings View Post
          Just drill it out . . . how hard can that be ? ? ?
          No doubt the driver could still be used if you didn't mind looking at one screw way out of place. I doubt I am the only one that would not consider this acceptable. It would be the first thing I saw every time I looked at the driver. If I don't contact PE and make them aware of the problem, they don't contact Dayton and make them aware of it, and Dayton could build more just like this one. Every time PE has one returned, they lose money followed by Dayton losing money when they take them back from PE. This kind of stuff gets built into the prices you and I pay for the drivers, so it's in the best interest of the community to notify them ASAP to help us all out.
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            Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

            Originally posted by djg View Post
            There's a hole in the wrong spot, right? Is it not drilled all the way through? Must have slipped. Maybe the QC guy jumped right before this one came through.

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...1-12-hour.html
            Yes, the hole is off center by almost an inch.
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            • #7
              Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

              Simply contact PE. The problem will be solved quickly.

              As far as qc, don't assume that every driver is checked. More than likely about 10% go through additional checks unless a problem is noted. Also I would bet that the new driver will be very close to your other one. The RS line is very consistent.
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              • #8
                Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
                No doubt the driver could still be used if you didn't mind looking at one screw way out of place. I doubt I am the only one that would not consider this acceptable. It would be the first thing I saw every time I looked at the driver. If I don't contact PE and make them aware of the problem, they don't contact Dayton and make them aware of it, and Dayton could build more just like this one. Every time PE has one returned, they lose money followed by Dayton losing money when they take them back from PE. This kind of stuff gets built into the prices you and I pay for the drivers, so it's in the best interest of the community to notify them ASAP to help us all out.
                Uhhhh....
                Dayton Audio is a department of PE. It is their house brand, located at the same address.

                That said- I had an M6A awhile back that came with an angled hole, and one non-drilled- on the same driver. They sent a replacement, and let me keep the uglier one.

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                  Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                  Yikes, yeah that hole is way off. Funny, I didn't see that part of it right away, just that it wasn't drilled all the way through. But now that I see it's off center, I can't STOP seeing it!

                  I'd have to get a new one, that would drive me bonkers...

                  ...Like it seriously bugs me when I look at Ray Alden's book "speakerbuilding 201" and see how off-center some of the drivers are mounted in his speakers... almost like however the woofer was oriented when they plopped it into the hole is how it got screwed in. Stuff like that drives me nuts. No offense to Ray Alden or his builders... he's a genius, and I'm far from perfect and so is my work, but stuff like that just stands out to me very much. Man, I need to lighten up!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                    Originally posted by Wolf View Post
                    Uhhhh....
                    Dayton Audio is a department of PE. It is their house brand, located at the same address.

                    That said- I had an M6A awhile back that came with an angled hole, and one non-drilled- on the same driver. They sent a replacement, and let me keep the uglier one.

                    Later,
                    Wolf
                    I never knew they were associated, thanks for the insight. They are still manufacturing the parts overseas though, right?
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                    • #11
                      Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                      Originally posted by tomzarbo View Post
                      Yikes, yeah that hole is way off. Funny, I didn't see that part of it right away, just that it wasn't drilled all the way through. But now that I see it's off center, I can't STOP seeing it!

                      I'd have to get a new one, that would drive me bonkers...

                      ...Like it seriously bugs me when I look at Ray Alden's book "speakerbuilding 201" and see how off-center some of the drivers are mounted in his speakers... almost like however the woofer was oriented when they plopped it into the hole is how it got screwed in. Stuff like that drives me nuts. No offense to Ray Alden or his builders... he's a genius, and I'm far from perfect and so is my work, but stuff like that just stands out to me very much. Man, I need to lighten up!

                      TomZ
                      I see that stuff too- It's part of the disease/CDO.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                        Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
                        I never knew they were associated, thanks for the insight. They are still manufacturing the parts overseas though, right?
                        I can say: some yes, some no.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                          You have to be kidding.

                          He needs to send it back and get a matching woofer. PE will accommodate. They may even just tell him to keep that defective unit.
                          I believe he was being sarcastic. Or maybe Deward was only suggesting taking DIY to the next level? :D
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                          • #14
                            Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                            Originally posted by tomzarbo View Post
                            Yikes, yeah that hole is way off. Funny, I didn't see that part of it right away, just that it wasn't drilled all the way through. But now that I see it's off center, I can't STOP seeing it!

                            I'd have to get a new one, that would drive me bonkers...

                            ...Like it seriously bugs me when I look at Ray Alden's book "speakerbuilding 201" and see how off-center some of the drivers are mounted in his speakers... almost like however the woofer was oriented when they plopped it into the hole is how it got screwed in. Stuff like that drives me nuts. No offense to Ray Alden or his builders... he's a genius, and I'm far from perfect and so is my work, but stuff like that just stands out to me very much. Man, I need to lighten up!

                            TomZ
                            We have a lot in common Tom. There is no way I could overlook this and say "it'll be alright". It's like a magnet to your eyes once you see it. When you figure out how to make yourself lighten up, please share, I could do the same. I also noticed the same thing in his book.:D
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                              Re: Dayton RS150 Manufacturing/QC problem

                              Wow, that's a new one. Wonder how that ended up happening.
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