Dayton DIY

[MikeV@parts-express.com]

Thanks to everyone who took time out of their busy lives to attend/present. I was glad to see that no one left empty handed and everyone had a chance to get to know one another on a first name basis.

This being my first DIY (and certainly not my last), I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of realistic bass one can generate from a transmission line design. Jim Griffen's Aura/Hi-Vi project was mindblowing (those room EQ'd line arrays would also sit right with anyone looking to go all active), as was Paul K.'s Alicante's that incorpore the Morel MDM 55 dome mid with the Vifa XT19 (my first time auditioning those properly). Jim also displayed his fan-favorite Jordan/Aurum Cantus two-ways (though this time MLTL style) that hit all of the right buttons.

Chris (sorry about the last name) used a single driver design with a TB W4-1052SA. I believe anyone looking to get into the hobby should ask about about these.

Shawn Adams (Shawn A to the regulars) auditioned to the crowd his project using a ported Hi-Vi F6 and Vifa XT19. For being completed at 2AM this morning, they were well within experimental tolerances and well on their way to becoming a great monitor in my opinion. Shawn didn't disappoint with his follow-up. The silver Al's should be on every DIY'ers short list for a rocking speaker that delivers the bass! This design works as a counter-point of the BR-1's using their enclosure and port, substituting the DA175-8 (which drop in) for the Dayton Classic 6-1/2".

dlsbobby took center stage with his subwoofer SPL demonstration. Everyone gathered in the rear parking lot (following the extention cord from the Hampton Inn out to his truck) to witness the deformation of American steel via sound pressure generated from his mad experiment using Peavey Low Riders. I received a front row show, where I tried to hold an SPL meter (which constantly pegged at 126dB) in the cab. I personally want to see how he tops this next year. A meter with 160dB capabilities will be on hand!

And then there was a Wolf... Presenting no less than four designs (with multiple subwoofers in tow), Wolf demonstrated alternative methods for extracting ample amounts of bass from a small format single driver design (everyone loved the TB's with the wooden phase plug). I was finally able to hear a series crossover with his TB/Audax 2-way! There was just something about those.

Mike Caldwell (from Lord Company <A HREF="http://www.lordequip.com/">http://www.lordequip.com/</A> ) gave us an overview and assembly of a product that should solve problems for the DIY'er who doesn't have the ability to construct a finished cabinet/prototyping drivers for a specific box volume. Essentially it's a knock down cabinet (which had to be close to 2" thick) that assembles inside of 30 minutes. All you would need are wood screws and an electric screwdriver/drill. The fit and finish will be on par with CNC boxes.

Aaron (to the familiars) had on display his Zero Point amplifier kits. The performance, price point, and features of this amplifier kit should make it attractive to anyone considering building their own amplifier. It is well thought out and stable down to 5Hz. Personally, I favored his universal IR volume control kit. The ability to turn on and off, as well as control the volume, of virtually any line level device made it especially attractive. The moving volume knob with flashing LED is what sold me (hey I'm easily entertained).

Dylan then demonstrated that car audio drivers have great potential! Ask him about his subs, mids, and tweeters (which he designed himself) at <A HREF="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/">http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/</A> . You don't have to be so humble Dylan!

I was also able to get an indoctrination into tube amplifiers thanks to another Chris (is it ChrisM ?) who provided self built stereo and headphone units.

I hope I didn't leave anyone out. If I did, feel free to yell at me at... well you should be able to see the email addy. Thanks for everyone taking me in as one of their owm. I hope to have something to present next year, and hope to see more faces to link to names. I wish I had had more time.

-MikeV

[bogie]

Mike found about about the initiation ceremony... Darren, be sure to post the pix with the pink bikini and fuzzy green slippers...

> Thanks to everyone who took time out of
> their busy lives to attend/present. I was
> glad to see that no one left empty handed
> and everyone had a chance to get to know one
> another on a first name basis.

> This being my first DIY (and certainly not
> my last), I was pleasantly surprised by the
> amount of realistic bass one can generate
> from a transmission line design. Jim
> Griffen's Aura/Hi-Vi project was mindblowing
> (those room EQ'd line arrays would also sit
> right with anyone looking to go all active),
> as was Paul K.'s Alicante's that incorpore
> the Morel MDM 55 dome mid with the Vifa XT19
> (my first time auditioning those properly).
> Jim also displayed his fan-favorite
> Jordan/Aurum Cantus two-ways (though this
> time MLTL style) that hit all of the right
> buttons.

> Chris (sorry about the last name) used a
> single driver design with a TB W4-1052SA. I
> believe anyone looking to get into the hobby
> should ask about about these.

> Shawn Adams (Shawn A to the regulars)
> auditioned to the crowd his project using a
> ported Hi-Vi F6 and Vifa XT19. For being
> completed at 2AM this morning, they were
> well within experimental tolerances and well
> on their way to becoming a great monitor in
> my opinion. Shawn didn't disappoint with his
> follow-up. The silver Al's should be on
> every DIY'ers short list for a rocking
> speaker that delivers the bass! This design
> works as a counter-point of the BR-1's using
> their enclosure and port, substituting the
> DA175-8 (which drop in) for the Dayton
> Classic 6-1/2".

> dlsbobby took center stage with his
> subwoofer SPL demonstration. Everyone
> gathered in the rear parking lot (following
> the extention cord from the Hampton Inn out
> to his truck) to witness the deformation of
> American steel via sound pressure generated
> from his mad experiment using Peavey Low
> Riders. I received a front row show, where I
> tried to hold an SPL meter (which constantly
> pegged at 126dB) in the cab. I personally
> want to see how he tops this next year. A
> meter with 160dB capabilities will be on
> hand!

> And then there was a Wolf... Presenting no
> less than four designs (with multiple
> subwoofers in tow), Wolf demonstrated
> alternative methods for extracting ample
> amounts of bass from a small format single
> driver design (everyone loved the TB's with
> the wooden phase plug). I was finally able
> to hear a series crossover with his TB/Audax
> 2-way! There was just something about those.

> Mike Caldwell (from Lord Company
> <A HREF="http://www.lordequip.com/">http://www.lordequip.com/</A> ) gave us an
> overview and assembly of a product that
> should solve problems for the DIY'er who
> doesn't have the ability to construct a
> finished cabinet/prototyping drivers for a
> specific box volume. Essentially it's a
> knock down cabinet (which had to be close to
> 2" thick) that assembles inside of 30
> minutes. All you would need are wood screws
> and an electric screwdriver/drill. The fit
> and finish will be on par with CNC boxes.

> Aaron (to the familiars) had on display his
> Zero Point amplifier kits. The performance,
> price point, and features of this amplifier
> kit should make it attractive to anyone
> considering building their own amplifier. It
> is well thought out and stable down to 5Hz.
> Personally, I favored his universal IR
> volume control kit. The ability to turn on
> and off, as well as control the volume, of
> virtually any line level device made it
> especially attractive. The moving volume
> knob with flashing LED is what sold me (hey
> I'm easily entertained).

> Dylan then demonstrated that car audio
> drivers have great potential! Ask him about
> his subs, mids, and tweeters (which he
> designed himself) at
> <A HREF="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/">http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/</A> .
> You don't have to be so humble Dylan!

> I was also able to get an indoctrination
> into tube amplifiers thanks to another Chris
> (is it ChrisM ?) who provided self built
> stereo and headphone units.

> I hope I didn't leave anyone out. If I did,
> feel free to yell at me at... well you
> should be able to see the email addy. Thanks
> for everyone taking me in as one of their
> owm. I hope to have something to present
> next year, and hope to see more faces to
> link to names. I wish I had had more time.

> -MikeV

[trevorg]

Um yea... I learned lot. And it was great. I made it hoem with a small assortment of driver to toy with yay, now i just need to run out and grab some materials to build with...

[bill]

For those of us not fortunate enough to be there. Sob.

Best regards,
Bill

> Thanks to everyone who took time out of
> their busy lives to attend/present. I was
> glad to see that no one left empty handed
> and everyone had a chance to get to know one
> another on a first name basis.

> This being my first DIY (and certainly not
> my last), I was pleasantly surprised by the
> amount of realistic bass one can generate
> from a transmission line design. Jim
> Griffen's Aura/Hi-Vi project was mindblowing
> (those room EQ'd line arrays would also sit
> right with anyone looking to go all active),
> as was Paul K.'s Alicante's that incorpore
> the Morel MDM 55 dome mid with the Vifa XT19
> (my first time auditioning those properly).
> Jim also displayed his fan-favorite
> Jordan/Aurum Cantus two-ways (though this
> time MLTL style) that hit all of the right
> buttons.

> Chris (sorry about the last name) used a
> single driver design with a TB W4-1052SA. I
> believe anyone looking to get into the hobby
> should ask about about these.

> Shawn Adams (Shawn A to the regulars)
> auditioned to the crowd his project using a
> ported Hi-Vi F6 and Vifa XT19. For being
> completed at 2AM this morning, they were
> well within experimental tolerances and well
> on their way to becoming a great monitor in
> my opinion. Shawn didn't disappoint with his
> follow-up. The silver Al's should be on
> every DIY'ers short list for a rocking
> speaker that delivers the bass! This design
> works as a counter-point of the BR-1's using
> their enclosure and port, substituting the
> DA175-8 (which drop in) for the Dayton
> Classic 6-1/2".

> dlsbobby took center stage with his
> subwoofer SPL demonstration. Everyone
> gathered in the rear parking lot (following
> the extention cord from the Hampton Inn out
> to his truck) to witness the deformation of
> American steel via sound pressure generated
> from his mad experiment using Peavey Low
> Riders. I received a front row show, where I
> tried to hold an SPL meter (which constantly
> pegged at 126dB) in the cab. I personally
> want to see how he tops this next year. A
> meter with 160dB capabilities will be on
> hand!

> And then there was a Wolf... Presenting no
> less than four designs (with multiple
> subwoofers in tow), Wolf demonstrated
> alternative methods for extracting ample
> amounts of bass from a small format single
> driver design (everyone loved the TB's with
> the wooden phase plug). I was finally able
> to hear a series crossover with his TB/Audax
> 2-way! There was just something about those.

> Mike Caldwell (from Lord Company
> <A HREF="http://www.lordequip.com/">http://www.lordequip.com/</A> ) gave us an
> overview and assembly of a product that
> should solve problems for the DIY'er who
> doesn't have the ability to construct a
> finished cabinet/prototyping drivers for a
> specific box volume. Essentially it's a
> knock down cabinet (which had to be close to
> 2" thick) that assembles inside of 30
> minutes. All you would need are wood screws
> and an electric screwdriver/drill. The fit
> and finish will be on par with CNC boxes.

> Aaron (to the familiars) had on display his
> Zero Point amplifier kits. The performance,
> price point, and features of this amplifier
> kit should make it attractive to anyone
> considering building their own amplifier. It
> is well thought out and stable down to 5Hz.
> Personally, I favored his universal IR
> volume control kit. The ability to turn on
> and off, as well as control the volume, of
> virtually any line level device made it
> especially attractive. The moving volume
> knob with flashing LED is what sold me (hey
> I'm easily entertained).

> Dylan then demonstrated that car audio
> drivers have great potential! Ask him about
> his subs, mids, and tweeters (which he
> designed himself) at
> <A HREF="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/">http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/</A> .
> You don't have to be so humble Dylan!

> I was also able to get an indoctrination
> into tube amplifiers thanks to another Chris
> (is it ChrisM ?) who provided self built
> stereo and headphone units.

> I hope I didn't leave anyone out. If I did,
> feel free to yell at me at... well you
> should be able to see the email addy. Thanks
> for everyone taking me in as one of their
> owm. I hope to have something to present
> next year, and hope to see more faces to
> link to names. I wish I had had more time.

> -MikeV

[AJ]

[jimgriffin]

Mike,

Thanks for the support from you and Darren to make the event a success. P-E does it right.

Jim

[chadg]

Provided Link: http://chadgray.info/


Thanks again to PE! The company truly does care about the customer and tries to deliver to the needs of the customer. You can not go wrong with this belief.

Build it and they will come.

[mikec]

Sounds like I had to leave too soon!

Great meeting everybody and my ears sure got exposed to a whole new realm of sound.

Now I gotta get in the shop and make some sawdust!

________
Wong Amat Tower Condos Pattaya

[unknownuser]

All my thanks to everyone! I had a blast. I'm looking forward to next year where I think I'll stay over Fri & Sat as well as bring some speakers.
Cheers,
Ward


(Originally posted by: Ward)

[Paul K.]

In my first post below, I forgot to thank you and PE for your support and door prizes. Hope to see you again next year.
Paul K.

> Thanks to everyone who took time out of
> their busy lives to attend/present. I was
> glad to see that no one left empty handed
> and everyone had a chance to get to know one
> another on a first name basis.

> This being my first DIY (and certainly not
> my last), I was pleasantly surprised by the
> amount of realistic bass one can generate
> from a transmission line design. Jim
> Griffen's Aura/Hi-Vi project was mindblowing
> (those room EQ'd line arrays would also sit
> right with anyone looking to go all active),
> as was Paul K.'s Alicante's that incorpore
> the Morel MDM 55 dome mid with the Vifa XT19
> (my first time auditioning those properly).
> Jim also displayed his fan-favorite
> Jordan/Aurum Cantus two-ways (though this
> time MLTL style) that hit all of the right
> buttons.

> Chris (sorry about the last name) used a
> single driver design with a TB W4-1052SA. I
> believe anyone looking to get into the hobby
> should ask about about these.

> Shawn Adams (Shawn A to the regulars)
> auditioned to the crowd his project using a
> ported Hi-Vi F6 and Vifa XT19. For being
> completed at 2AM this morning, they were
> well within experimental tolerances and well
> on their way to becoming a great monitor in
> my opinion. Shawn didn't disappoint with his
> follow-up. The silver Al's should be on
> every DIY'ers short list for a rocking
> speaker that delivers the bass! This design
> works as a counter-point of the BR-1's using
> their enclosure and port, substituting the
> DA175-8 (which drop in) for the Dayton
> Classic 6-1/2".

> dlsbobby took center stage with his
> subwoofer SPL demonstration. Everyone
> gathered in the rear parking lot (following
> the extention cord from the Hampton Inn out
> to his truck) to witness the deformation of
> American steel via sound pressure generated
> from his mad experiment using Peavey Low
> Riders. I received a front row show, where I
> tried to hold an SPL meter (which constantly
> pegged at 126dB) in the cab. I personally
> want to see how he tops this next year. A
> meter with 160dB capabilities will be on
> hand!

> And then there was a Wolf... Presenting no
> less than four designs (with multiple
> subwoofers in tow), Wolf demonstrated
> alternative methods for extracting ample
> amounts of bass from a small format single
> driver design (everyone loved the TB's with
> the wooden phase plug). I was finally able
> to hear a series crossover with his TB/Audax
> 2-way! There was just something about those.

> Mike Caldwell (from Lord Company
> <A HREF="http://www.lordequip.com/">http://www.lordequip.com/</A> ) gave us an
> overview and assembly of a product that
> should solve problems for the DIY'er who
> doesn't have the ability to construct a
> finished cabinet/prototyping drivers for a
> specific box volume. Essentially it's a
> knock down cabinet (which had to be close to
> 2" thick) that assembles inside of 30
> minutes. All you would need are wood screws
> and an electric screwdriver/drill. The fit
> and finish will be on par with CNC boxes.

> Aaron (to the familiars) had on display his
> Zero Point amplifier kits. The performance,
> price point, and features of this amplifier
> kit should make it attractive to anyone
> considering building their own amplifier. It
> is well thought out and stable down to 5Hz.
> Personally, I favored his universal IR
> volume control kit. The ability to turn on
> and off, as well as control the volume, of
> virtually any line level device made it
> especially attractive. The moving volume
> knob with flashing LED is what sold me (hey
> I'm easily entertained).

> Dylan then demonstrated that car audio
> drivers have great potential! Ask him about
> his subs, mids, and tweeters (which he
> designed himself) at
> <A HREF="http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/">http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/</A> .
> You don't have to be so humble Dylan!

> I was also able to get an indoctrination
> into tube amplifiers thanks to another Chris
> (is it ChrisM ?) who provided self built
> stereo and headphone units.

> I hope I didn't leave anyone out. If I did,
> feel free to yell at me at... well you
> should be able to see the email addy. Thanks
> for everyone taking me in as one of their
> owm. I hope to have something to present
> next year, and hope to see more faces to
> link to names. I wish I had had more time.

> -MikeV

[darkkhild]

I would like to thank everyone that I had meet on that very fun filled day. Being my first time to such an event I am hooked now. Only if my wife can cope with it...

But really this is something that all noobs should at least go to once in they lives. Darren, Mike, and the rest of the guys there really can share a lot with someone. I had alot of fun just sitting there and seeing and listening to what someone can construct and just be blown away with just a small setup. As the old saying goes, size DOESN'T matter in this realm.
Wolf thank you for showing all your designs and as well with the rest of the guys, I am looking forward to seeing what comes about next year.
Thanks guys.
-B

[envisionelec]

Provided Link: http://www.pesupport.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=307044


> Sounds like I had to leave too soon!

> Great meeting everybody and my ears sure got
> exposed to a whole new realm of sound.

> Now I gotta get in the shop and make some
> sawdust!

Mike, please email me with your shipping address and driver requirements. There is a list at this link to what I have: