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  1. #1
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    Default New Garage Speakers

    A while back I decided to tweak my current garage speakers a little, which kept snowballing. At the same time I was messing with a few other pairs of speakers and the only "extras" I had were a pair of Zaphs B3S design. A very nice design, no doubt, but not sufficient for extended periods outdoors at elevated volume.

    I started going through my spare drivers and cabinets and modeling xovers for the various combinations until I remembered I had a pair of 14L~ MTM cabinets stashed away. The baffles, at one time, were removable but are painted shut, limiting my driver choices a little bit. The combination I chose is Peerless 830392 5.5" midwoofer and HiVi K1 tweeter. AJ had modeled a XO for these which works quite nice and I only had to rob one pair of coils from another project to build them. It models fairly smooth and the tweeter does not require any padding.

    I listened to them a litle last night, with a more extended period today. I followed that with some measurments, for consistency only (non-measurment mic). The conditions weren't ideal for measurments, it took awhile to get somewaht clean results. Room effects are clearly shown. I am very new to measurement and have much to learn.

    They sure aren't beautiful, but here are some pictures anyway

    The garage is currently very messy but it is HOT outside, as well as severe storming the last few days. But I digress...
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  2. #2
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    Default Re: New Garage Speakers

    Cool. Garage MTMs? So..... How do they sound?

    I recently built a "quick" pair of MT's I'm not even going to finish them, except possibly black paint. No veneer, as these will strictly be for my garage. I used the Alesis carbon fiber buyout 6-1/2" ers and the same tweeter, a K-1. Mine came out reasonably alright.- At least for a garage.

    Regards,
    Eric

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    Default Re: New Garage Speakers

    The enclosures say, 'Garage'; but the drivers say, 'Listening Room'.

    I'd take those in my garage in a heartbeat... they'd go nicely with the ported DVC12 I've got out there...

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    chrisn, could you post the crossover for that combo? i was looking for it a while back but didn't find it.

    blue934
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    Last edited by blue934; 04-11-2011 at 06:10 AM.

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    Default Re: New Garage Speakers

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisn View Post
    A while back I decided to tweak my current garage speakers a little, which kept snowballing. At the same time I was messing with a few other pairs of speakers and the only "extras" I had were a pair of Zaphs B3S design. A very nice design, no doubt, but not sufficient for extended periods outdoors at elevated volume.

    I started going through my spare drivers and cabinets and modeling xovers for the various combinations until I remembered I had a pair of 14L~ MTM cabinets stashed away. The baffles, at one time, were removable but are painted shut, limiting my driver choices a little bit. The combination I chose is Peerless 830392 5.5" midwoofer and HiVi K1 tweeter. AJ had modeled a XO for these which works quite nice and I only had to rob one pair of coils from another project to build them. It models fairly smooth and the tweeter does not require any padding.

    I listened to them a litle last night, with a more extended period today. I followed that with some measurments, for consistency only (non-measurment mic). The conditions weren't ideal for measurments, it took awhile to get somewaht clean results. Room effects are clearly shown. I am very new to measurement and have much to learn.

    They sure aren't beautiful, but here are some pictures anyway

    The garage is currently very messy but it is HOT outside, as well as severe storming the last few days. But I digress...
    easy clean up just use some vinyl peel and stick from pe. I bet they sound good. the cabinet looks solid.phil

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    Default Re: New Garage Speakers

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisn View Post
    A while back I decided to tweak my current garage speakers a little, which kept snowballing. At the same time I was messing with a few other pairs of speakers and the only "extras" I had were a pair of Zaphs B3S design. A very nice design, no doubt, but not sufficient for extended periods outdoors at elevated volume.

    I started going through my spare drivers and cabinets and modeling xovers for the various combinations until I remembered I had a pair of 14L~ MTM cabinets stashed away. The baffles, at one time, were removable but are painted shut, limiting my driver choices a little bit. The combination I chose is Peerless 830392 5.5" midwoofer and HiVi K1 tweeter. AJ had modeled a XO for these which works quite nice and I only had to rob one pair of coils from another project to build them. It models fairly smooth and the tweeter does not require any padding.

    I listened to them a litle last night, with a more extended period today. I followed that with some measurments, for consistency only (non-measurment mic). The conditions weren't ideal for measurments, it took awhile to get somewaht clean results. Room effects are clearly shown. I am very new to measurement and have much to learn.

    They sure aren't beautiful, but here are some pictures anyway

    The garage is currently very messy but it is HOT outside, as well as severe storming the last few days. But I digress...
    I think the idea of some sort of graffiti/psychedelic finish for a pair of garage speakers is way cool and this is giving me some ideas/inspiration.

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    Default Re: New Garage Speakers

    nepaeric: They sound pretty good. The garage lifts the low end pretty well, although I think I need to use a better cable for the right speaker. They are an efficient MTM, 89-90db. I like to listen to music outside the garage as well.


    Jethro: thanks, lol. I'd take your sub in my garage any day. I did, at one time, have 2 10" woofers on a small baffle mounted to the (at the time) bare studs. It didn't sound too good.


    Blue: I've attatched AJ's schematic and FR, I hope he doesn't mind me doing so

    Phil: Thanks, the cabinets are surprisingly heavy, given the front baffle is oak ply... Relieved on the back with a 45~ chamfer too.

    cmac: Thanks, glad I could inspire something I once had a garage "boombox" (free) with graffiti on it, including many little aliens and leprichons (sp?) painted over a john deere themed backround. No pictures survived of that
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    Default Re: New Garage Speakers

    whoops! Forgot the XO schematic, courtesy of AJ.
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  9. #9
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    appreciate that chrisn.
    i was told this was a great design to use the drivers i have but haven't come across any details of it till now.

    blue934
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    Last edited by blue934; 04-11-2011 at 06:11 AM.

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