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    Thumbs up More Tymphany buyouts!!

    Just click the "Speaker Buyouts" on the right side of this post...

    Peerless XXLS, Vifa PL18, 5.25" Exclusives...

    Some mighty fine dealios!!
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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    I'm just that guy. www.sru.edu Rock Solid.

    "It has been remarked that if one selects his own components, builds his own enclosure, and is convinced he has made a wise choice of design, then his own loudspeaker sounds better to him than does anyone else's loudspeaker. In this case, the frequency response of the loudspeaker seems to play only a minor part in forming a person's opinion."

    L.L. Beranek, Acoustics (McGraw-Hill, New York, 1954), p.208.

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    still too nooby to know anything but this one really looks great i think.

    it's got that expensive quality look in my opinion. now how well does it perform ???? again, stiil to green to know anything about that. maybe one of you more in the know than me could give your opinion on what this would be good for.

    Peerless 831882 5-1/4" HDS Exclusive Woofer

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-231
    Last edited by gorbs; 10-28-2009 at 09:21 AM. Reason: forgot the link
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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gorbs View Post
    still too nooby to know anything but this one really looks great i think.

    it's got that expensive quality look in my opinion. now how well does it perform ???? again, stiil to green to know anything about that. maybe one of you more in the know than me could give your opinion on what this would be good for.

    Peerless 831882 5-1/4" HDS Exclusive Woofer

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-231
    Awesome driver!!!

    That is one very special mid woofer with excellent performance all around. Great as a mid in a three way as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    Awesome driver!!!

    That is one very special mid woofer with excellent performance all around. Great as a mid in a three way as well.
    What tweeter would mate well with that as a nice computer monitor? I am hoping to get back to building again after dealing with a couple of significant family and friend health problems. I could use the therapy of saw dust and solder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorbs View Post
    still too nooby to know anything but this one really looks great i think.

    it's got that expensive quality look in my opinion. now how well does it perform ???? again, stiil to green to know anything about that. maybe one of you more in the know than me could give your opinion on what this would be good for.

    Peerless 831882 5-1/4" HDS Exclusive Woofer

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-231
    your driver could be in a small 2 way sat about .25cu ft sealed it would need to cross to a sub around 100hz. the f3 would be about 92hz you could hi pass at about 2000hz
    very good price on it.

    www.parts-express.com/pdf/299-231s.pdf

    the above link shows the graph . the driver has a very smooth response from 100hz to about 2000 hz . all 3 color lines stay close that means it sounds the same off axis. or as you walk around the room. looks like you can use this in a mtm setup.

    I event think it would be okay ported, maybe 1 cu ft for a mtm and .5 cu ft for two way

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    the midwoofer looks really good with this
    tweeter.

    a mtm crossed around 1800 - 2000 hz sealed would be in a .5 to .6 box ported about 1cu ft box. both drivers look smooth and easy to cross around that number maybe a 2nd order.

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=279-175
    http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/279-175s.pdf


    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/psho...31&ctab=2#Tabs

    http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/299-231s.pdf

    68 dollars in drivers for each mtm. 83 forgot to add the tweeter
    Last edited by philiparcario; 10-28-2009 at 01:20 PM.

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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    thanks guys. now i must convince SWMBO that these are needed lol i was thinking a curved style cabinet with some of that carbon fiber for the baffle and a rich wood veneer would look good.
    david golemba
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    Seems like this woofer has similar specs and better extension than the Exclusive - am I missing something? http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-234

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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    angaria,

    i was strictly speaking from a "looks great" perspective in referencing the HDS woofer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angaria View Post
    Seems like this woofer has similar specs and better extension than the Exclusive - am I missing something? http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-234
    "Extension" in a 5.25" midwoofer isn't a paramount consideration... unless low to moderate SPL/volumes are the desired design. The Exclusive could be used sealed with a woofer/sub, and produce an excellent high-end system for pennies on the dollar... nothing missed there, except maybe the opportunity!!

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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ebert View Post
    A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.

    yes but what is the cool and great looking factor. great now i got to go look at the za14w08.

    good christ how could i have forgotten about those. ??? jeez now i got to rethink this whole thing. lol, i don't even have the cabs for my RB2 kit complete yet and i already thinking about the next project.

    the cool factor on the Zaphs are sky high as well. !
    Last edited by gorbs; 10-28-2009 at 01:36 PM. Reason: new info
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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ebert View Post
    A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.
    I don't know about better in most regards, but probably very similar in most respects. Distortion levels are on par with one another, and both have very smooth and extended high end.

    Flip a coin.

    For $25, I'd go with the PPB version and save the few bucks. However, the truncated flange adds a slight aggravation factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    I don't know about better in most regards, but probably very similar in most respects. Distortion levels are on par with one another, and both have very smooth and extended high end.

    Flip a coin.

    For $25, I'd go with the PPB version and save the few bucks. However, the truncated flange adds a slight aggravation factor.
    Might want to add that these Peerless 5.25" drivers have larger Sd than the ZA14W08, which is smaller than typical 5.25" drivers. As a result, they are better suited for a non-subwoof'ed vented 2-way system with adequate bass extension and power handling for music listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Ebert View Post
    A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.
    If drivers could be judged solely on specifications then perhaps you have a strong argument. However, my bias towards certain cone materials in certain applications influences my personal preference. You must also consider the application of the driver in judging which is better because speaker/crossover design parameter restrictions will differ between them.
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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    Did anyone else notice that the specs on the buyout 831882 are not the same as Madisound's 831882 specs? They even call it a 5.75" driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom_s View Post
    Did anyone else notice that the specs on the buyout 831882 are not the same as Madisound's 831882 specs? They even call it a 5.75" driver.
    Yeah, very different... and wouldn't be as good for sealed as I thought.
    I thought those specs were better than I've become accustomed to expecting!!

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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tom_s View Post
    Did anyone else notice that the specs on the buyout 831882 are not the same as Madisound's 831882 specs? They even call it a 5.75" driver.
    The incorrect specs are probably just typos.

    They call it 5.75" driver because the flange is not truncated like most of their HDS drivers, it's round.

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    Default Re: More Tymphany buyouts!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tom_s View Post
    Did anyone else notice that the specs on the buyout 831882 are not the same as Madisound's 831882 specs? They even call it a 5.75" driver.
    Mad links to specs for the 830882, but those specs and the 831882 appear to be identical. The 5.75" has to be a typo.

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