More Tymphany buyouts!!

[Wolf]

Just click the "Speaker Buyouts" on the right side of this post...

Peerless XXLS, Vifa PL18, 5.25" Exclusives...

Some mighty fine dealios!!
Later,
Wolf

[nick29498141]

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-234

Bye-bye, extra cash!

NK

[gorbs]

still too nooby to know anything but this one really looks great i think.

it's got that expensive quality look in my opinion. now how well does it perform ???? again, stiil to green to know anything about that. maybe one of you more in the know than me could give your opinion on what this would be good for.

Peerless 831882 5-1/4" HDS Exclusive Woofer

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-231

[Pete Schumacher ®]

still too nooby to know anything but this one really looks great i think.

it's got that expensive quality look in my opinion. now how well does it perform ???? again, stiil to green to know anything about that. maybe one of you more in the know than me could give your opinion on what this would be good for.

Peerless 831882 5-1/4" HDS Exclusive Woofer

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-231

Awesome driver!!!

That is one very special mid woofer with excellent performance all around. Great as a mid in a three way as well.

[philiparcario]

still too nooby to know anything but this one really looks great i think.

it's got that expensive quality look in my opinion. now how well does it perform ???? again, stiil to green to know anything about that. maybe one of you more in the know than me could give your opinion on what this would be good for.

Peerless 831882 5-1/4" HDS Exclusive Woofer

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-231

your driver could be in a small 2 way sat about .25cu ft sealed it would need to cross to a sub around 100hz. the f3 would be about 92hz you could hi pass at about 2000hz
very good price on it.

www.parts-express.com/pdf/299-231s.pdf

the above link shows the graph . the driver has a very smooth response from 100hz to about 2000 hz . all 3 color lines stay close that means it sounds the same off axis. or as you walk around the room. looks like you can use this in a mtm setup.

I event think it would be okay ported, maybe 1 cu ft for a mtm and .5 cu ft for two way

[philiparcario]

the midwoofer looks really good with this
tweeter.

a mtm crossed around 1800 - 2000 hz sealed would be in a .5 to .6 box ported about 1cu ft box. both drivers look smooth and easy to cross around that number maybe a 2nd order.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=279-175
http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/279-175s.pdf


http://www.parts-express.com/pe/psho...31&ctab=2#Tabs

http://www.parts-express.com/pdf/299-231s.pdf

68 dollars in drivers for each mtm. 83 forgot to add the tweeter

[gorbs]

thanks guys. now i must convince SWMBO that these are needed lol i was thinking a curved style cabinet with some of that carbon fiber for the baffle and a rich wood veneer would look good.

[Angaria]

Seems like this woofer has similar specs and better extension than the Exclusive - am I missing something? http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-234

[donparsons]

Awesome driver!!!

That is one very special mid woofer with excellent performance all around. Great as a mid in a three way as well.

What tweeter would mate well with that as a nice computer monitor? I am hoping to get back to building again after dealing with a couple of significant family and friend health problems. I could use the therapy of saw dust and solder.

[gorbs]

angaria,

i was strictly speaking from a "looks great" perspective in referencing the HDS woofer.

[gc1]

Seems like this woofer has similar specs and better extension than the Exclusive - am I missing something? http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-234

"Extension" in a 5.25" midwoofer isn't a paramount consideration... unless low to moderate SPL/volumes are the desired design. The Exclusive could be used sealed with a woofer/sub, and produce an excellent high-end system for pennies on the dollar... nothing missed there, except maybe the opportunity!!

[Paul Ebert]

A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.

[gorbs]

A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.

yes but what is the cool and great looking factor. great now i got to go look at the za14w08.

good christ how could i have forgotten about those. ??? jeez now i got to rethink this whole thing. lol, i don't even have the cabs for my RB2 kit complete yet and i already thinking about the next project.

the cool factor on the Zaphs are sky high as well. !

[critofur]

Seems like this woofer has similar specs and better extension than the Exclusive - am I missing something? http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=299-234

The woofer you linked to: 299-234: Xmax: 3.5 mm

From the Tymphany spec sheet for the exclusive: Xmax 3.5 mm

P.E. just made a mistake on their writeup, not all that uncommon for them...

The Peerless HDS woofers with the Nomex cones may have a slightly different sound than the ones with the PPB (PolyPropylene "Black"), but, when comparing two that are otherwise the same, such as the HDS Nomex and HDS PP, they are basically interchangeable.

Joe R., designer of the "Elsinore" speakers indicated a slight preference for the Nomex, over the Polyproplyene, but both are good.

Based on looking at the response charts and the distortion measurements by Zaph, I prefer the HDS non-phase plug models over the HDS "Exclusive" ones with the phase plugs.

I think I saw someone posted measurements of the 299-234 on the AVS forum? But the person who measured them said they're still working on getting their measurement system setup and wasn't too confident on his measurements.

[romanbednarek]

I'm bummed that they don't have the 830881 in that list (but do have the 5.5" version, the 831882) because that has been the unobtainium part of my beloved Alpheus MkII three-way project. I'll add that any woofers in that line (HDS/phase plug) are phenomenal in my opinion.

They do have a "substitute" driver (830872 - http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...TOKEN=77362029 ) that can be used with the Alpheus MkII design (I adjusted the crossover and a few people have built this version with success). The modified crossover is shown below...



...and the remaining details for the project are under the Alpheus MkII project link at my site below.




I apologize about the self-promotion of one of my projects but there are very few projects on my site that can still be built (due to driver availability) and this one is still one of my all-time favorites.

[jkim]

I'm pretty sure that 299-234 (Peerless 830911) is an iteration of the following:

http://www.tymphany.com/850489

Due to the phase plug attached to the pole piece, the inductive reactance of this one and the 831882 is very low. Non-phase plug HDS woofers' is not as low.

[Pete Schumacher ®]

A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.

I don't know about better in most regards, but probably very similar in most respects. Distortion levels are on par with one another, and both have very smooth and extended high end.

Flip a coin.

For $25, I'd go with the PPB version and save the few bucks. However, the truncated flange adds a slight aggravation factor.

[jkim]

I don't know about better in most regards, but probably very similar in most respects. Distortion levels are on par with one another, and both have very smooth and extended high end.

Flip a coin.

For $25, I'd go with the PPB version and save the few bucks. However, the truncated flange adds a slight aggravation factor.

Might want to add that these Peerless 5.25" drivers have larger Sd than the ZA14W08, which is smaller than typical 5.25" drivers. As a result, they are better suited for a non-subwoof'ed vented 2-way system with adequate bass extension and power handling for music listening.

[romanbednarek]

A few months ago, I would have been all over the Exclusives deal. Now... not so much. Undoubtably it's a great driver, but I suspect that the ZA14W08 is better in most regards and about the same price.

If drivers could be judged solely on specifications then perhaps you have a strong argument. However, my bias towards certain cone materials in certain applications influences my personal preference. You must also consider the application of the driver in judging which is better because speaker/crossover design parameter restrictions will differ between them.

[tom_s]

Did anyone else notice that the specs on the buyout 831882 are not the same as Madisound's 831882 specs? They even call it a 5.75" driver.