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    Default Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Made some dust today... Debating weather I should put a brace between the mid enclosure and the rear wall... Thoughts? There are no holes in anything yet.. just the rough cuts. Try to envision you are looking from the back through to the front.
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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    as I see it the answer is yes. use a dowel or two



    http://www.americanwoodcrafterssuppl...els.htm#dowels

    has five 36inch long 1 inch diameter dowels 20 bucks that is a big supply will last for lots of projects.

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    He's right - you can't overbrace!

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by martyh View Post
    He's right - you can't overbrace!
    Agreed, I'd put a brace or two inside that mid chamber as well ... like one dowel front/back just above and below the midrange.

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Definitely. Brace it up.

    If you can cut some dados, do that. Run a .75" vertical dado along the front baffle, both sides of the mid baffle and the rear baffle. Then add a 2 or 3 inch piece of .75" stock (MDF or PLY) as a rib on all the pieces, and then run pieces of stock from each of the walls, using the rib as the mounting point. Add as many of those cross pieces you want.
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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    Definitely. Brace it up.

    If you can cut some dados, do that. Run a .75" vertical dado along the front baffle, both sides of the mid baffle and the rear baffle. Then add a 2 or 3 inch piece of .75" stock (MDF or PLY) as a rib on all the pieces, and then run pieces of stock from each of the walls, using the rib as the mounting point. Add as many of those cross pieces you want.
    Its going to be very hard to brace to the front of the chamber. The MTM occupies most of it, though I may be able to get a dowl in there.

    Do Dados add that much more than bu t ts?

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Wait just a cotton picking minute....

    I thought the Beasties were going to be a monkey coffin?

    That looks more like a midget-coffin.




    Lord, I apologize for that right there, and please be with the starvin’ pygmies down there in New Guinea. Amen

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ckmoore View Post
    Wait just a cotton picking minute....

    I thought the Beasties were going to be a monkey coffin?

    That looks more like a midget-coffin.




    Lord, I apologize for that right there, and please be with the starvin’ pygmies down there in New Guinea. Amen
    Heh heh... No the FOLLOW UP to the Beasties will be. "The Fists". Besides, what's not monkey coffin-ish about a speaker that stands 41.5"x10.5"x10"?

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    For bracing the mid-chamber, I'd do one or two braces like these (from my SR71's... the cross-shaped brace shown here)



    Mike, I really don't think dato cuts/joints are necessary at all. If your edges are nice and square, b*tt joints will do just fine.
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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Well, made some major sawdust over the past 2 days. I am not a very good woodworker, so it takes me a lot longer than it likely should.

    Given my history for under-bracing. Please review the pictures below. Any thoughts on the bracing will be welcome. Where the triangular pieces are, there will be matching pieces on the other sides as well.

    The walls will be lines with 1/2" sonic barrier, and there will be 1.5" eggcrate in the midbox with acoustistuff to taste.

    I think I am seeing a light at the end of the tunnel! Only been at these for a year!
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    Default Voicing!

    Well, the journey continues!

    An interesting things happened this evening while voicing them. My wife took a listen who knows nothing about audio. I played a song and it brought her to tears. She was very moved and said "I get it now after all these years why you do this..." My uncle just passed who we were close to, and my father is likely ext in line based upon age. Listening to Peter Gabriel's "Father/son" did it. She commented on how gentile the speakers are, and how they disappear leaving nothing but the music. This was after i went through a sea of configurations.

    I am amazes how they can lay way back when needed, but can slam when asked to. The ref series are truly an amazing value, and the TB 25-1744s is one heck of a tweeter holding its own with anything out there under $50-$70. The resolution of the RS225 is astounding.

    My wife could not believe the birds nest I have been dealing with. She seems to have a whole new appreciation.
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    Default Re: Voicing!

    Quote Originally Posted by mzisserson View Post

    ... My wife could not believe the birds nest I have been dealing with. She seems to have a whole new appreciation.
    I have dealt with similar "birds nests" and my wife, too, could not believe it. However, my wife's reaction would not be described as a "new appreciation".

    It sounds like you and your wife had an excellent day.
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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Here are some updated pictures. They will likely not get paint until next spring at this point. However, they are just about done. I need to get the x-overs together, get them in the cabs, and then I will complete the write up in my blog on the build!
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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Wow! PBR? You can still buy that?

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PWR RYD View Post
    Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.

    I kid, BPR is some of the better tasting cheap crap. At least its not natty light.

    Good looking giant speakers. I'd like to hear those. They seem like a Dayton RS take on the giant Zaph SB refrigerator thingies he made.

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PWR RYD View Post
    Yeah man. It is the only cheap stuff that tastes ok, does ot give me a headache, and does not smell like a skunk's ***.

    Quote Originally Posted by evilskillit View Post
    Good looking giant speakers. I'd like to hear those. They seem like a Dayton RS take on the giant Zaph SB refrigerator thingies he made.
    Thanks! The geometry I used on the driver spacing vs. x-over fq vs. baffle diffraction worked out near flawlessly. They absolutely disappear for their size. I demoed them for a neighbor and he was looking for the surround speakers and center channel. Makes me happy.

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mzisserson View Post
    Here are some updated pictures. They will likely not get paint until next spring at this point. However, they are just about done. I need to get the x-overs together, get them in the cabs, and then I will complete the write up in my blog on the build!
    Looks awesome... Can't wait to hear more about the sound of those guys.

    Is that a real EB Musicman Stingray up on your wall? I have been looking at maybe getting one for a while now. I still cant bring myself to pass on the Warwick though.

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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lamski View Post
    Looks awesome... Can't wait to hear more about the sound of those guys.

    Is that a real EB Musicman Stingray up on your wall? I have been looking at maybe getting one for a while now. I still cant bring myself to pass on the Warwick though.
    I wish it was a real one. I am not talented enough to own one. I tinkered for about 4-5 years, not it is more wall art than anything.

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    Wow mike, those look sick! Can't wait to hear them!
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    Default Re: Offical "Beasties" build thread

    Man, I have always wanted a sunfire A/V . Nice job!

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