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    Default Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    John sent me some results from the drivers I had sent him, I though I would share the results. He tested the Scan-speak discovery double magnet DX tweeter, the Vifa NE180-4, and the Wavecor WF152BD03.

    Compare the new Scan-speak DX to the old vifa and Dayton RS28A below:

    Scanspeak D2604-833000 FR
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    Scanspeak D2604-833000 HD

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    Vifa DX25 HD

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    Dayton RS28A HD

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    Looking at the Scan-speak specs, it looks at though the Scan-speak version is an under hung design vs. the Vifa's over hung. I have heard that the Scan-speak now shares the same dome material as some of its' more expensive stable mates.


    Vifa NE180-04 FR

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    Vifa NE180-04 HD

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    Wavecor WF152BD03 FR

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    Wavecor WF152BD03 HD

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    Last edited by czag; 03-21-2011 at 10:32 PM.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    All those drivers look fantastic!
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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Nice response on the Wavecor.

    Great sensitivity being a 4 ohm driver.

    A little pricey...but sometimes you actually do get what you pay for.

    Thank you for sharing all these results!

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Can you give a layman's summary? Which one wins?
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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by lunchmoney View Post
    Can you give a layman's summary? Which one wins?
    I think the new Scan-speak performs better than the older vifa because of the improvement in 2nd and 3rd order harmonics above 2.0khz. Between the Dayton and the Scan-speak, the HD looks to be close to a dead heat but I think the Scan-speak would have much better consistency from unit to unit. I actually was planning on comparing the the Scan-speak with some of the Dayton RS28Fs that I have in a two way with the Vifa NE180. All just my opinions, though.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Do you have John's T/S parameters for the Wavecor?

    Thanks...

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    That Wavecor looks real good on paper. Nice smooth, extended response, good sensitivity, and low distortion in the mid range. A great candidate as a mid with a 95dB pro 12" woofer, crossing LR2 @ 2000Hz with the right tweeter.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Thanks for sharing. I got a pair of VIFA NE810 @ home so this information is really useful! Looks like I've picked a winner! Distortion is really low on these. Now all I need is a tweeter to team them with ... hummm maybe a SS D2604-833000!

    All those driver looks like winner to me ... except for the price for both woofer!

    Chuck

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by czag View Post
    I think the new Scan-speak performs better than the older vifa because of the improvement in 2nd and 3rd order harmonics above 2.0khz. Between the Dayton and the Scan-speak, the HD looks to be close to a dead heat but I think the Scan-speak would have much better consistency from unit to unit. I actually was planning on comparing the the Scan-speak with some of the Dayton RS28Fs that I have in a two way with the Vifa NE180. All just my opinions, though.

    Chris
    I use that ScanSpeak Discovery tweeter along with a Revelator sliced cone mid-woofer in my center channel. Just ran an RTA with pink noise yesterday and the speaker is better than expected, near perfect in fact, in FR from 100Hz to 10,000Hz, remember this is an in-room response using my miniDSPs for the crossover.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    That Wavecor looks real good on paper. Nice smooth, extended response, good sensitivity, and low distortion in the mid range. A great candidate as a mid with a 95dB pro 12" woofer, crossing LR2 @ 2000Hz with the right tweeter.
    What pro 12" woofer and tweeter would you recommend?

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by foxfire3 View Post
    What pro 12" woofer and tweeter would you recommend?
    The Eminence 3012LF and any 91dB tweeter. The RS28F would work, the SB26STAC.




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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    I am using the Scan 2604/833000 working up a design. It is very, VERY good. I have the bubbegum and tape version running.
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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    The Eminence 3012LF and any 91dB tweeter. The RS28F would work, the SB26STAC.



    Thank you Pete for the suggestions.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Hey Pete, why do you keep suggesting that Eminence woofer? Is there data on it somewhere?

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleTap View Post
    Hey Pete, why do you keep suggesting that Eminence woofer? Is there data on it somewhere?
    Augerpro measured the HO version. Exceptional performance through the mid range.

    It also made it into the Econowave Deluxe, Zilch's purported favorite version in the series.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    Augerpro measured the HO version. Exceptional performance through the mid range.
    How does it model in a vented box?

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    FYI, here's the spec sheet for the Wavecor

    http://www.solen.ca/pdf/wavecor/WF152BD03_04.pdf

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleTap View Post
    How does it model in a vented box?
    80L tuned to 40Hz using a 4" diameter, 4.5" long port, gives F3 at 40Hz, capable of hitting 115dB from 36Hz on up.

    Can you imagine a pair of them in the room? HOLY @H!z][

    Really unlimited dynamics with your 1000W amp, as long as you're not pushing stuff below about 32Hz. If you want a woofer to keep up with that snappy 6600, this is it.

    I want to use that big 10" WG and a 91dB tweeter, with that woofer, crossed around 700Hz.

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Hey, thank you for posting those!

    I've been looking for a mid exactly like that wavecor, and now I guess I've found it. Unless it should be the vifa instead..

    I think the winners are ...us! Those look like great drivers, the prices seem reasonable, and now we have measurements to evaluate by and work from. Can we ask for more than that?

    thanks again,

    Gordon

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    Default Re: Test results for Scan-speak, Vifa, and Wavecor

    Quote Originally Posted by NyxOne View Post
    Thanks for sharing. I got a pair of VIFA NE810 @ home so this information is really useful! Looks like I've picked a winner! Distortion is really low on these. Now all I need is a tweeter to team them with ... hummm maybe a SS D2604-833000!

    All those driver looks like winner to me ... except for the price for both woofer!

    Chuck
    That is exactly what I was thinking of. It looks like Scan-Speak has made some significant improvements on what most thought were just vifa retreads.

    The Wavecors are going in a center channel. Paying around $120/ea for the performance that those Wavecor drivers give is not a bad deal at all, although I paid much less on ebay from a private seller. The Peerless exclusive have similar performance for less, but I don't think I'll ever warm up to those silver frames and phase plug. The Wavecor full size tweeters look interesting also.

    Chris
    Last edited by czag; 03-26-2011 at 03:29 PM.

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