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Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower
I posted this in the main forum before I realized it should have gone here.
The box design is one I have used before but not quite the same literage (smaller). The cabinet design philosophy is similar to the Kef Q series, but rather than rounded still has a squared front and tapering sides. The theory here is much like a pond of water and ripples from a pebble. The tapered shape breaks up the (sound) waves and reflects them away from the speaker and also cancels out the wave as well. Great in theory, and it does seem to work. All the interior sides have double layered acoustic felt, with a small amount of acoustic stuffing in the bottom chamber. The design is ported for extended bass.
Originally these cabinets were designed to take the Tronix 6.5 " woofer as shown.This is an example of what can go wrong if you haven't done your homework right. I modeled the cabinet using Unibox and fitted everything up to air tightness for testing. They sounded absolutely dreadful, not mid or bass performance to speak of. WTF?
It turns out that I had inadvertently selected a box model that also included 2 drivers not one. Some how I had managed to change the parameters and not notice. Needless to say that wasn't the outcome I was looking for. So what to do with the cabinets? Simple, stick an 8" woofer in them and redesign appropriately.
The Unibox graphs now for a ported two-way using same tweeter and 8" driver is in the second post
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Re: Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower
Box construction.
I see people dealing with cabinet construction in various ways. As this design is a two part construction, basic carcass with overlayed outer veneer, there is a great deal of rigidity inherent in the process. I however am a little oldskool in my approach. While modern glues are very good, I'm not a fan of producing something that's subjected to long periods of stress or vibration without additional support. Therefore my basic premise is on of glue and screw. Especially when dealing with MDF. I want the inner part of the case to be as rigid as possible and this method most suits the design, as can be seen in the following photo.

As you can see, all mating surfaces are glued and then screwed into place. There is only one exception to this which I will cover later. Note also that even the battens that support the rear baffle will be treated the same, although only the centerline and pre-drilled holes are seen in this image.
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Rear Baffle
The rear baffle retains the natural dovetail shape formed by the sides. I decided to make the rear baffle a fixed item and once cabinet construction was complete access to the inside would be through the speaker hole only. This does mean it can be a bit restrictive if changes to componentry are required but I want the rigidity factor this brings to the enclosure.
This is pre-glued then slid into place and screwed permanently in position. That now done, the battening, sides and rear baffle combine to form one very rigid unit.
As a footnote to the above. I have made a similar set of these speakers, but they hadn't as much internal support and rigid nature. I also made them out of 20mm heart Rimu. The finished look was excellent but unfortunately they resonate much more than I would have liked. They now perform the roll as my rear speaker in the H.T. setup I have. In this roll they work very well.
Rear Baffle, positioned, ready for glue up.
Last edited by KiwiListener; 06-18-2012 at 03:23 AM.
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Grills
One of the easier parts of the build is the grills. These are made from 12mm MDF, Next time I will use 9mm , but as I already had some 12mm so be it.
The holes were routed out and rounded over with the router and router table, Having a separate dedicated router table is a plus and if you can afford one I would suggest its a worthwhile purchase. I have this particular model and while its not the most expensive it does work well. I had some 75 x 75mm aluminium angle, from which I made a separate full length fence which makes working with longer sections of wood easier, but the supplied fence does the job for most things.
A rounder-over bit the same as this sits in the router table most of the time, so that the inner and outer edges of the holes and the sides are all treated the same, then sanded with 240grit and painted chalkboard black. This is a flat, black acrylic paint that has the same color as the grill cloth, the grill cloth is acoustically transparent.
One of the best investments I made to go with my routers, (I have three) was a good quality half inch shank set like these, an investment I have never had any regrets for buying. WAF = Nil at the time 
So here's the basic grill all nicely routed ready for sanding. I formed the bottom curve of the grill using a compass for the shape and then machining it using my disc/ belt sander the same as this one. I have over the last 5 to 10 years been investing in good quality woodworking machinery and now have a fairly well equipped workshop. There is however a couple of machines to purchase at some point and that also earns a WAF=0 as well.

You will note the holes in the grill plate. These are the location holes. Once the grill is shaped and the location holes drilled I lay the grill on the cabinet and align it to properly mark the cabinet using a sharp Bradawl This to locate the position for drilling the holes in the cabinet face to take the recessed plugs.
The holes in the grill plate are drilled out to 6mm on the under side to take the little lugs, that slip into the plugs in the cabinet face. All pretty familiar to anyone whose done a few enclosures in the past.

Pre-painted and pre-fitted, prior to having the grill cloth applied. The cloth is stapled on with the excess trimmed off and then covered with a black adhesive cloth tape to give a neat finish.
Next up the feet.
Last edited by KiwiListener; 07-07-2012 at 06:55 PM.
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Re: Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower
Great writeup... I need to hire you to do mine.
Keep up the good work... it looks great! What's next?
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Re: Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower
 Originally Posted by ReissM
Great writeup... I need to hire you to do mine.
Keep up the good work... it looks great! What's next?
Finishing Work
Actually not too much. I've finished these off with a total of seven coats of spray poly, using 1200 grit wet and dry sandpaper. Once the last coat had hardened off after 24hrs, being winter its taking soooo much longer to dry, I used my favorite wood polish with 0000 range steel wool just to smooth off any surface imperfections. I was using my new spraygun this time and found I was getting a lot better results.
The finish is a nice clear and deep gloss finish which brings out the natural figure in the wood. The color is rustic oak, one of the colors I find that suits the Macrocarpa, better than a lot of the darker stains. The look is recycled/retro so I have deliberately incorporated little things into the finish. The timbers is recycled Macrocarpa 8 x1 roughsawn planks from a cafe at a small seaside township, so its in keeping with the timber which has lots of small blemishes. In the photo following you can see I have set the veneer pieces in an offset manner Thats part of the theme and on the top of the other cabinet I went deliberately short on the wood and added in a piece and the sides have the same effect. It meant a lot of filling and smoothing with the orbital sander but I'm really pleased with the finish.
Top of speaker after initial sanding and stain applied.
Note all the old staple holes and nail holes. Filling all these took some time but is worth the effort.

Next ... Wiring up.
Last edited by KiwiListener; 06-16-2012 at 07:39 PM.
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Gorgeous! It was worth the extra work dude.
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Re: Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower
 Originally Posted by ReissM
Gorgeous! It was worth the extra work dude.
Thankyou. Yup reasonably pleased with them
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Purdy cool guy, those woofers almost didn't fit, eh!! Like the gloss finish and hope they rock the house for years to come. Now throw some Steely Dan on and enjoy!!
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Re: Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower...Final thoughts & how they sound
Final thoughts
Well the first thing that comes to mind is double check all your workings before starting the build. On the plus side however the 200mm driver (8inch) was a very good choice for these speakers. At 31 liters internal volume, they work very nicely. Without full testing gear its difficult to tell, but aurally, they certainly get down there. Extremely good bass extension and for a vented box the roll off is very pleasant. I like to be able to hear the thrum of the bass guitar note drop smoothly and they certainly don't disappoint.
I would nominally rate them at 40 Hz to 20000 kHz. I think they are in fact getting somewhat lower than this. I played a couple of my fav vinyl tracks and I know that my old studio monitors were getting down into the 20 Hz range and these seem to be very close. I know this isn't definitive but I'm happy with them to this point.
So it looks like the original mistake was a blessing in disguise. Mid range is nice and crisp, both female and male voices sound very natural, and the tweeter being attenuated slightly has definitely worked..
Would I build these again for someone else? Yes definitely.
Next time, now I know the enclosure design works well, I may swap the tweeter for either the Vifa D25AG Tweeter or the Dayton Audio DC28F-8 1-1/8" Silk Dome Tweeter, both of which should complement the woofer.
Running at half power (approx 40W RMS) they have a warm sound, and exhibit about the same amount of enclosure resonance as my B&W 308's do. I could put some extra bracing in the enclosure, but by design the enclosure is naturally rigid.
Crossover was set at 3500 kHz and this sits nicely for both the woofer and tweeter. To add a little warmth to them the bottom chamber is lightly stuffed and the top chamber where the tweeter is, is approx half filled. This left plenty of breathing room around the woofer and the port. The port airspeed is very low and it shows on the graph and when running, the amount of air being moved through the port is large but slow moving. In comparison my reworked Aria1 bookshelf cabinets with a 50mm port pump air just about fast enough for my wife to dry here hair 
So how do they sound?
Pretty good really. I started out with flat response a played a couple of songs from Alison Moyet's album Alf Tracks were "All cried Out" and "Money Mile". This was a vinyl recording so I was expecting a good full analogue sound and that's what I got. Very nice indeed. This was followed by a CD of Pinkfloyd's "Dark Side of the Moon". Tracks were "Speak to me/breathe" and "The great Gig in the Sky for a female vocals test. Very nice vocals/ crooning. I love that track.
At this point I was getting a little unhappy with the response in the upper registers, then I had a brainwave. The amp I was using was my Onkyo SR-576. Its grunty beast, but not audiophile level amp. Still it does pretty well. Like a lot of HT amps it has certain settings that aren't good for audio listening. Namely Dynamic EQ and Cinema filter, both of which accent a lot of the lower and upper levels to a distinctly unfriendly level if you are purely listening to music. Let this be a warning to others, I like having flat response and then adjusting bass and treble to suit, the on board filters and EQ take this to extremes. Once I had that sorted out everything was fine.
After a hour of listening to Vinyl. CD and media PC recordings I'm happy to report that the sound very nice. The next build I'm planning is the three way version of this, hopefully that will be an even better setup.
One last note:
I mentioned earlier about the crossover housing position. When I initially started my listening tests, I found that once I wound the power on the safety trip-out on the amp would switch off the amp. Somewhat alarming to say the least. One speaker was okay and the other was causing the protection trip. I took out the crossover and had a good look at it. There didn't appear to be anything wrong with it but I stripped all the components off the mica board and used a new board and rebuilt the crossover. No more problem. It seems there was a short somewhere on the board but it wasn't and still isn't immediately noticeable. All however is now going well so long story short, I'm glad I made the crossovers accessible.
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Re: Build No. 3 ... 2 way tower
 Originally Posted by 6thplanet
Purdy cool guy, those woofers almost didn't fit, eh!! Like the gloss finish and hope they rock the house for years to come. Now throw some Steely Dan on and enjoy!! 
Cheers for that.
Just thrashed some Frankie goes to Hollywood, Tracks were "Two Tribes", "The Power of Love" and for a really good hammering "Relax"
I live in the country so sound level isnt really an issue but I think the neighbors heard "Relax". Followed that up with Pink's - "Sober" for some all round punch
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Having spent almost the entire day indulging myself (currently on holiday and its winter ), I have had the luxury of listening and enjoying a big range of music. Something I haven't done in a long time.
Todays listening culminated in watching the David Gilmour DVD David Gilmour: Remember That Night - Live from the Royal Albert Hall (2007). Possibly one of the finest music DVD's I've seen or heard, featuring virtuoso performances from the Pink Floyd duo of Wright and Gilmour.
Recorded in HD and featuring Digital Stereo or 5.1 DD. I choose to listen to this in stereo mode and was well rewarded with an awesome soundtrack.
To me the hallmark of a good speaker (and you've heard this before ) is that you shouldnt feel tired from listening to music and that the speakers should generally blend into the background.
I'm happy to say the Aria's do just that. Even after only 8 hours they are starting to settle and there is a warmth that's quietly becoming more evident.
Sadly the world lost Richard Wright the following year, but judging from the doco that's included in the DVD he at least was once again enjoying music and being on stage.
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