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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Quote Originally Posted by cjd View Post
    If you try mine, you can use it without the RLC on the tweeter it seems.
    Ya, I was looking at that. What frequency were you targeting with that notch? Would a smaller R help make it effective?

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Brute force, 17 components. I included a three component trap for the resonance at 17KHz.

    Most of the components are on the tweeter, but they're really small values.




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    Attached Files Attached Files
    Last edited by Pete Schumacher ®; 06-23-2012 at 05:27 PM.
    R = h/(2*pi*m*c) and don't you forget it! || Periodic Table as redrawn by Marshall Freerks and Ignatius Schumacher || King Crimson Radio

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    That's a winner. Hows the impedance etc look? I'm on my tablet till the 13th
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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Quote Originally Posted by greywarden View Post
    That's a winner. Hows the impedance etc look? I'm on my tablet till the 13th
    I added impedance and transfer function plots to the post above.
    R = h/(2*pi*m*c) and don't you forget it! || Periodic Table as redrawn by Marshall Freerks and Ignatius Schumacher || King Crimson Radio

    Byzantium Project & Build Thread || MiniByzy Build Thread || 3 x Peerless 850439 HDS 3-way || 500W/ch PC for 2ch music.

    Schumakubin Plans
    DA175 x 4, RS28 2.5-way || Prisstina Plans DA175 x 4, RS52, ND20-6 || Schumakubin MKII 5 X DA175, RS28F, 3-way || L.O.K.I. Project WG 2.5way

    Fallback position || It's just the weather || The Sun controls climate? Well Duh!!! ||
    The Fraud Continues || Hoax

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    I doubt the tweeter can handle a low crossover, but if you are adventurous you could try this: cross at 1700hz with a cascaded BW1+BW2 filter on both woofer and tweeter. Pretty sure the tweeter stays positive polarity. Intended for horns where the tweeter is 1/4 wavelength behind the woofer at crossover, and provides a third order roll off with LR lobing behaviour.

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Schumacher ® View Post
    Brute force, 17 components. I included a three component trap for the resonance at 17KHz.

    Most of the components are on the tweeter, but they're really small values.




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    Nice.

    I started along that route and wandered off, but you've done a great looking job with it.

    C

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Nice one Pete. I don't have PCD right now but will look into it later. Looks like there's a notch on the woofer at 900hz? How expensive is that

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbouma View Post
    Nice one Pete. I don't have PCD right now but will look into it later. Looks like there's a notch on the woofer at 900hz? How expensive is that
    The woofer circuit is 5 components.

    Before the XO, I have a parallel RLC consisting of 1.2mH, 22uF, 9.1 Ohm, followed by a low pass consisting of .9mH and 27uF.

    The tweeter has a parallel RC before the XO consisting of .68uF and 18 Ohm. Then a HP section consisting of 2.2uF and .12mH.

    Then, the fun begins. In parallel with the tweeter are three separate series networks.
    1.8mH, 2.8uF, 10 Ohm (impedance compensation)
    .11mH, 12uF, 2.5 Ohm (pass band EQ)
    .05mH, 1.2uF (HF resonance notch)
    Last edited by Pete Schumacher ®; 06-24-2012 at 06:06 PM.
    R = h/(2*pi*m*c) and don't you forget it! || Periodic Table as redrawn by Marshall Freerks and Ignatius Schumacher || King Crimson Radio

    Byzantium Project & Build Thread || MiniByzy Build Thread || 3 x Peerless 850439 HDS 3-way || 500W/ch PC for 2ch music.

    Schumakubin Plans
    DA175 x 4, RS28 2.5-way || Prisstina Plans DA175 x 4, RS52, ND20-6 || Schumakubin MKII 5 X DA175, RS28F, 3-way || L.O.K.I. Project WG 2.5way

    Fallback position || It's just the weather || The Sun controls climate? Well Duh!!! ||
    The Fraud Continues || Hoax

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    Default Re: Anyone wanna help me do a cross over design? Measurement files attached

    Wow lol. Only 2 bigish coil, so it won't be too expensive
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