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    2 way, 4th order LR at 5k. RTA shows a 6db dip centered @ crossover frequency. Possible causes?

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    Re: crossover question

    Oop?

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    • #3
      Re: crossover question

      Originally posted by jefffluker View Post
      2 way, 4th order LR at 5k. RTA shows a 6db dip centered @ crossover frequency. Possible causes?
      Try it with reversed polarity.
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      • #4
        Re: crossover question

        Originally posted by jefffluker View Post
        2 way, 4th order LR at 5k. RTA shows a 6db dip centered @ crossover frequency. Possible causes?
        You may also need to adjust the delay between the two drivers, relative to your listening/measurement position.

        Switching polarity may be too coarse of an adjustment to fix the problem.
        “Never ask people about your work.”
        ― Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead

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        • #5
          Re: crossover question

          Originally posted by DE Focht View Post
          You may also need to adjust the delay between the two drivers, relative to your listening/measurement position.

          Switching polarity may be too coarse of an adjustment to fix the problem.
          I agree. A polarity reversal should have a notch deeper than 6 dB if the time delay between the two is set appropriately.

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          • #6
            Re: crossover question

            Originally posted by 1100xxben View Post
            I agree. A polarity reversal should have a notch deeper than 6 dB if the time delay between the two is set appropriately.
            Operative word: If. The OP hasn't provided sufficient information to determine that. With a combination of time align being off and reversed polarity you could get only a 6dB dip, especially with the minimal bandwidth overlap of 4th order filters.
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            • #7
              Re: crossover question

              Originally posted by billfitzmaurice View Post
              Operative word: If. The OP hasn't provided sufficient information to determine that. With a combination of time align being off and reversed polarity you could get only a 6dB dip, especially with the minimal bandwidth overlap of 4th order filters.
              I agree, but if he doesn't have time alignment, flipping the polarity won't remedy the problem either. My guess would be that without time alignment, he'll see the ~6 dB dip regardless of the polarity and the frequency will shift around a little.

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              • #8
                Re: crossover question

                Originally posted by 1100xxben View Post
                I agree, but if he doesn't have time alignment, flipping the polarity won't remedy the problem either. My guess would be that without time alignment, he'll see the ~6 dB dip regardless of the polarity and the frequency will shift around a little.
                Perhaps, but since a polarity swap is such an easy process he's got nothing to lose but a few minutes of his time to see what it does.
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                • #9
                  Re: crossover question

                  Okay, OP here. Everybody chill!

                  I tried polarity swap. No effect. Tried different x-over frequencies. Little effect. Replaced the hefty Selenium D 405TI with a newer and nimbler PRV neo. BIG difference in the upper midrange (3-4-5k). Thank you all for the suggestions.

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                  • #10
                    Re: crossover question

                    Originally posted by jefffluker View Post
                    Selenium D 405TI
                    Shoulda told us that from the get go. The driver data sheet shows that it drops in sensitivity above 2.5kHz..
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                    • #11
                      Re: crossover question

                      True. I should have included driver info in o.p. Thank you all.

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