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    I've finished up the LECBOS build (includes a BOM). Added some text and new pictures to my webpage: LECBOS

    July 5 - I bumped the padding resistor for on wall mounting. Added some pictures of the final setup, and a bit more to the write-up.

    Last edited by LouC; 07-07-2010, 12:59 PM.
    Lou's Speaker Site [speakers.lonesaguaro.com]
    "Different" is objective, "better" is subjective. Taste is not a provable fact.
    Where are you John Galt? I may not be worthy, but I'm ready.

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    Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

    Can't wait to see and hear 'em in person!:D

    Mark
    You go your way, I'll go mine. I don't care if we get there on time.

    ~Pink Floyd

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    • #3
      Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

      Ah yes! Another cool build form Lou. I have a set of those tweeters to use up too.

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      • #4
        Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

        I remember someone comparing these favorably to a lot of commercial designs at $300 or more a pair. Considering that these use Peerless' cheapest woofers and what is, to be honest, a less-than-awe-insipring (albeit affordable) tweeter, you must have done one heck of a crossover.

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        • #5
          Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

          You never get something for nothing. Like I said in the write up, not going to win any bass competition, but what's there is exceptionally good for the price.
          Lou's Speaker Site [speakers.lonesaguaro.com]
          "Different" is objective, "better" is subjective. Taste is not a provable fact.
          Where are you John Galt? I may not be worthy, but I'm ready.

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          • #6
            Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

            They look pretty sweet. I had a real internal struggle over buying the Peerless woofers, especially at the price! But ultimately my desire to stick to "still-being-produced" kept me from purchasing them. Anyway, I already have several buyouts that I need to work with before I purchase more.

            Only issue, why cover up beautiful birch?

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            • #7
              Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

              The birch used on handi-panels is often pretty plain. Sometimes we want more character and grain on our cabs.

              Originally posted by rogoll View Post
              They look pretty sweet. I had a real internal struggle over buying the Peerless woofers, especially at the price! But ultimately my desire to stick to "still-being-produced" kept me from purchasing them. Anyway, I already have several buyouts that I need to work with before I purchase more.

              Only issue, why cover up beautiful birch?
              I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
              OS MTMs http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=220388
              Swope TM http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=221818
              Econowave and Audio Nirvana AN10 fullrange http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=216841
              Imperial Russian Stouts http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...=1#post1840444
              LECBOS. http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...ghlight=lecbos

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              • #8
                Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                Around here, 1/2" baltic is about the same as a sheet of 3/4 MDF. It took me about three hours to cut & bang out those cabinets with brad nailer. About 10 minutes to finish them with a sponge roller. Aesthetics are not a big concern for my workshop wall. Especially when it's 110 degrees. :eek:

                Now find me some kid who enjoys sanding, filling, spraying for $10/hour and we're on. :D

                Rogoll: Buy an extra driver on the buyouts. At $10, you've got a backup.
                Lou's Speaker Site [speakers.lonesaguaro.com]
                "Different" is objective, "better" is subjective. Taste is not a provable fact.
                Where are you John Galt? I may not be worthy, but I'm ready.

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                • #9
                  Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                  Just heard these again, this time in their final resting place: mounted on the shop wall. They're also now mated with one of Mr. Fitzmaurice's subs. Sounds great. Every shop should be so lucky.
                  Some of my audio projects:http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/

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                  • #10
                    Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                    Originally posted by rogoll View Post
                    Only issue, why cover up beautiful birch?
                    The quality of baltic out here has gone down considerably. Lots of "footballs" on both sides. You have to sort through the piles to find a clean side.
                    Lou's Speaker Site [speakers.lonesaguaro.com]
                    "Different" is objective, "better" is subjective. Taste is not a provable fact.
                    Where are you John Galt? I may not be worthy, but I'm ready.

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                    • #11
                      Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                      Originally posted by xavier View Post
                      Just heard these again, this time in their final resting place: mounted on the shop wall. They're also now mated with one of Mr. Fitzmaurice's subs. Sounds great. Every shop should be so lucky.
                      hehe Yeah I've got 4 of the woofers stashed away for another lambics build although the LECBOS would be very tempting for my garage.... (ponders how wife would take having the next project start up so soon...)

                      Take it easy
                      Jay
                      "I like Brewski's threads, they always end up being hybrid beer/speaker threads based on the name of his newest creation." - Greywarden

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                      • #12
                        Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                        LouC:

                        I saw the baffle dimensions on your site, but was wondering if you would mind providing the internal dimensions of your cabinets. Question, would the internal dimensions you used work correctly with the tube port you mention on your site?

                        Thank you,
                        Leonard

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                        • #13
                          Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                          Lou gives the net volume and the external dimensions. Says the tube port is equivalent. What else do you need? If you have trouble visualizing the box, search for Boxycad2. Works well for prism boxes. Lou was careful to specify net volume, so don't forget to account for braces and drivers. Boxycad can reasonable account for bracing.

                          Originally posted by rogoll View Post
                          LouC:

                          I saw the baffle dimensions on your site, but was wondering if you would mind providing the internal dimensions of your cabinets. Question, would the internal dimensions you used work correctly with the tube port you mention on your site?

                          Thank you,
                          Leonard
                          I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
                          OS MTMs http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=220388
                          Swope TM http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=221818
                          Econowave and Audio Nirvana AN10 fullrange http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=216841
                          Imperial Russian Stouts http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...=1#post1840444
                          LECBOS. http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...ghlight=lecbos

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                            Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                            Since everything is +/-10%, you can probably build from 18.5-22 liters without appreciable difference in bass reproduction and minor changes in port length.
                            I suggested 4.5" Length for 18.5 liters, 3.25" for 22 liters (the PE Cabinets). Volume of drivers & crossover is negligible. My tuning is designed to sacrifice a few hertz on the bottom end for a bit better excursion control.
                            Lou's Speaker Site [speakers.lonesaguaro.com]
                            "Different" is objective, "better" is subjective. Taste is not a provable fact.
                            Where are you John Galt? I may not be worthy, but I'm ready.

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                            • #15
                              Re: LECBOS Buyout MTM $120/pair

                              Hey Lou,

                              This looks like a great design to get my feet wet. I had asked in an earlier post about a "budget" design, and this sure seems to fit the bill. (I was directed to your site about the Cyclops and asked about your center as well.)

                              If you would please excuse my ignorance, what would be involved in decreasing the width to 8". Would the port need to change? You say +/-10% on dimensions, so i am guessing, with my old ears, nothing.

                              I don't know how to post the original link to my post, but I am limited to 8" max for my center.

                              Also, this would be set to small on my receiver. Is there any benefit to making them sealed? or would that require a whole remake of the design.

                              I thank you in advance.
                              CJ

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