My Gigers.. Tritrix/DVC10

[tech9_79]

So once upon a time.. i bought a $300 Jet table saw, it sucked. I could not get an even straight cut with that thing..guide moved blade seemed to move ect..

so it got me thinking there has to be an easier/better way to do this.. and i wanted to build multiple speakers at once. As you all know cutting takes seconds, setting up takes a lot longer.. so i had an idea.

i call this method "Cold Rolled" and also how i deal with expansion lines.






this was a little tricky.. next time im going to have to refine this.

Proof of concept.

All faces laminated in 1/8in masonite.

Adding the masonite made the cabs sooo much less resonant. Its a much tougher harder smoother surface..night and day.

Wings!!!!!!

With the 1/8 masonite i was able to get a 3/8 roundover without cutting through to the mdf.

I filled any seems with glue then primed with regular polyurethane. Im going to change this. If i can tint the poly or something..it just seemed to need a lot of paint to get a good coat, and with the poor lighting i couldnt really see very well.

Painters touch oil rubbed bronze satin. In sunlight i can still see the brown of the masonite..oh well...they still look great.

My Gigers..Tritrix 15L sealed, enjoy.





10in DVC 2.4cf, 100w

[fastbike1]

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I can't see why you would prime w/ poly over masonite and mdf. If you're painting anyway why not use one of the Zinsser primers or something similar.

[panterra]

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Very nice! I like the organic feel to the curves.

[707kevin]

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I didn't catch your method at first, until I looked at the photos, and I am impressed! Great idea, esp. if you're making more than 2 same size speakers!

I bet next time it will save an incredible amount of time.

[Soundslike]

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Another great adaptation/interpretation of Curt and Wayne's great design. Nicely done -- I'd describe the design as modernistic...

[greywarden]

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I Love HR Giger! And yes they look great.

[ericJ]

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Those look very nice. Like a sculture in an art gallery. Nice work.

[tech9_79]

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Those look very nice. Like a sculture in an art gallery. Nice work.

wow thanks guys.. i just got my parts for the center today! yeah..it was almost as easy to 5 speakers this way as it is to build 2. i love them... next inline 12in RS sub.

[killersoundz]

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Hi, just to comment about you complaining about your table saw. I also own a Jet contractor saw and can give you some helpful tips.

First of all you need to check the blade alignment to the miter slot. I use a 1/32 increment steel ruler. Put the blade all the way up, and measure from the front of the blade to the miter slot, and then the back of the blade to the miter slot. Measure from the blade itself and not a tooth. Both measurements should be identical, if not, try turning the blade a bit or use another blade to eliminate possibility of it being warped. Take your time and be really accurate. If you conclude it's not on, you need to loosen the trunnion bolts under the saw top and nudge the assembly into place so it's spot on with the miter slot. It's very common for this to go out over time, especially when the saw gets moved.

After you get the blade aligned with the miter slot, you need to align your fence to the miter slot. I try to make my fence just a hair 1/64 to 1/32 kicked out at the back end just to keep it from pinching any work piece up against the blade.

Once you get the blade and fenced aligned properly, the only thing keeping you from making dead accurate cuts is the fence moving during cutting. My particular fence doesn't lock in at the back, it will move during cutting when you apply pressure against it. I put a clamp on the back end of it before every cut.

Success! That wasn't so hard was it? You didn't have to say it sucks :( You'll have this problem with any table saw that isn't dialed in properly no matter how much it costs.

When I moved my saw the last time, the first piece I tried to cut at the new shop quickly told me the saw shifted during transport. I couldn't pull the 50lb motor off of it and that being jarred around during transport, no surprise...

[GTB]

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Very nice! Love the sub front and the stands, too.

[tech9_79]

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Success! That wasn't so hard was it? You didn't have to say it sucks :( You'll have this problem with any table saw that isn't dialed in properly no matter how much it costs.

naw it sucks...:p yeah i could spend the time to calibrate it..but it has other issues as well.. and i can do things with the edge guide that i cant with a saw of that size. It acts like a panel saw but better!! i could cut a perfect triangle out of the middle if a 4x8 sheet if i wanted to! the only thing i need the table saw for is small pieces. thanks for the advice though.

plus i wouldnt be able to do the "cold rolled method"

[Soundslike]

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naw it sucks...:p yeah i could spend the time to calibrate it..but it has other issues as well.. and i can do things with the edge guide that i cant with a saw of that size. It acts like a panel saw but better!! i could cut a perfect triangle out of the middle if a 4x8 sheet if i wanted to! the only thing i need the table saw for is small pieces. thanks for the advice though.

plus i wouldnt be able to do the "cold rolled method"

I'm not too sure everyone was able to discern what you mean by your "cold rolled" method. I'll have to admit that I didn't until I just reread your post. It looks like you glued up four long lengths of MDF into a square tubular shape, then cut off the length you needed for the individual enclosures. Very clever!

[tech9_79]

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yep thats basically what i did, cut top bottom and [email protected] then glued them up as one long tube. In theory i could do 8ft lengths like this and whenever i needed a cab i could just zip one off at any volume i needed.

oh one thing i forgot to add, the grills are held on by rear mounted magnets inside the cab! i can take the grills off and no grill mounts!

Cold rolled steal pipes,

[kornphlake]

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naw it sucks...:p yeah i could spend the time to calibrate it..but it has other issues as well.. and i can do things with the edge guide that i cant with a saw of that size. It acts like a panel saw but better!! i could cut a perfect triangle out of the middle if a 4x8 sheet if i wanted to! the only thing i need the table saw for is small pieces. thanks for the advice though.

plus i wouldnt be able to do the "cold rolled method"

I won't argue that your method works, but really this would be best done on a table saw, if it was dialed in all you'd need to do is set the fence at the desired length from the blade, cut the box, roll it over, cut again, roll it over cut again, roll it a final time and cut. The fence never moves only the work does, it makes the setup between cuts nil, and the setup between boxes is also nil, two perfectly identical boxes with minimal fuss.

I wish I had a proper table saw, I've got a Shop Smith which is really a pain to use if you're cutting pieces larger than about 6" square. I do use my circular saw where I can if setting up my Shop Smith will take longer than it would to setup an accurate fence, still if I had a good table saw I'd use it as often as I could. Wanna sell me that piece of junk Jet saw cheap?

[tech9_79]

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i dont know about you man, but i cant rip a 4x8 sheet on a table saw by myself(6'3 200lbs).. with this i can. Its easier to move the saw then it is to move the wood, and if you dont hold that panel straight..well we know what happens. If i had a $1k cabinet saw it might be different, but the jet is not.

next time im going to build a mount for the edge guide with a fence, so it will act like a panel saw/radial arm saw hybrid..!

this is not my first rodeo with mdf.

Sometimes the wheel sucks, time to invent something new. ;)