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  • Maurbacs NS6 MTM

    Dear friends, another build has been completed. I've had many requests for a MTM version of the Aurbacs, and results have not disappointed. Very simple crossover, great imaging, and lots of dynamics and good bass.







    Port is 3 inch PVC, 3 1/4 inch total length.




    Tower plans for that extra bass "love"

    Last edited by donradick; 03-07-2013, 12:27 AM. Reason: tower plans added

    I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
    "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

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  • #2
    Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

    If you have been following all the talk about the NS6, you have probably noticed that the measured T/S parameters are a bit different than the published ones. In particular, it likes a bit larger box than you might think. I built this into an existing 33 Liter box, and Unibox models F3 at 54 Hz. If you build a small tower with about 44 Liters, you should be able to get into the mid 40s, but I really don't notice any lack of bottom end.

    Due to the desire of some to use this as a horizontal MTM for a HT center channel, I tried to make off axis response as smooth as possible. I figure for an average living room, if you are seated 8 feet away, with a 7 or 8 foot sofa, that's no more than 20 degrees off axis, and the response is very good. Unfortunately, at 30 degrees off axis, it's not very pretty.

    I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
    "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

    High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
    SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
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    Tangband W6-sub

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    • #3
      Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

      Here is the raw, in box measured FR for 2 NS6 woofers. Again, ignore the drop below 500Hz, the woofer is essentially +- 2 dB from F3 to 3K. It sounds pretty good without a crossover, but you have to make sure you roll it off before the spike at 4.5K.




      Final FR is basically +- 2 dB, with a measured reverse null of 20 dB. They image very nicely. Ignore the drop below 500 Hz, that's due to the small room where I measure.


      Last edited by donradick; 05-08-2012, 08:29 PM. Reason: added raw NS6 FR without crossover

      I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
      "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

      High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
      SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
      My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

      Tangband W6-sub

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      • #4
        Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

        This was my second veneer project, and again I can't say enough good stuff about Titan DX contact cement. No fumes, and holds great. Quarter-sawn Maple veneer. I got some great finishing tips from LouC and others, and used a bit of Transtint medium brown in cut shellac (yes, it really DID pop the grain), with General Finishes water-based Enduro (really good stuff - I've tossed out the Deft lacquer) .

        Baffle is cheap HD ply, couple of coats of shellac, couple of coats of automotive "filler" primer, and a couple of coats of Oiled Bronze Rustoleum.






        I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
        "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

        High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
        SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
        My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

        Tangband W6-sub

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        • #5
          Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

          Here is the CSD for the 2 woofers with crossover. Not too shabby for a $10 woofer!

          I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
          "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

          High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
          SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
          My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

          Tangband W6-sub

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          • #6
            Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

            Crap, now I'm going to have to pick up more NS6's.

            Nice job. I assume the drivers being offset from center has a purpose?

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            • #7
              Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

              Holly hell. I want one.

              Don, You got PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                Originally posted by Leroy R View Post
                Crap, now I'm going to have to pick up more NS6's.

                Nice job. I assume the drivers being offset from center has a purpose?
                Yah, I quickly found that with an overall width of 9 1/2 inches and a bevel on the baffle, I needed to offset the woofers to get a tight center to center distance for all the drivers. If you are not planning on a center channel, it would probably work just as well to center all the drivers vertically.

                As noted, I got a little more bass extension when using about 20-22 liters per NS6, as I did in the Aurbacs.

                I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
                SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
                My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

                Tangband W6-sub

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                • #9
                  Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                  I understand the moving the tweeter up and woofers down to get the centers as close as possible when it's laying on it's side as a center. It is all three drivers shifted to the left rather than centered horizontally that I was talking about.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                    Originally posted by Leroy R View Post
                    I understand the moving the tweeter up and woofers down to get the centers as close as possible when it's laying on it's side as a center. It is all three drivers shifted to the left rather than centered horizontally that I was talking about.
                    Ah - another good question!

                    It's called "using what you have" - I had these old boxes leftover from a failed TMM a few years ago, and the internal braces dictated where I could place the woofers vertically. After I finished them, I realized that you could adjust the vertical position of the tweeter by flipping them one way or the other.

                    I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                    "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                    High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
                    SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
                    My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

                    Tangband W6-sub

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                    • #11
                      Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                      Nicely done, Don. I am sure this will be a popular build as long as stocks of the NS6 hold out
                      Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                        beautiful build, I am going back and forth on building something similar. I really had in mind to do four Aura's per enclosure to net eight ohms per side and gain dynamics/efficiency, but how do you feel this would work with adjusting the crossover and lobing? Possibly go to a MTMWW setup on a 2.5 way configuration? How are the dynamics on your current setup for theater use? Any help would be appreciated, going back and forth between these and the SAS buyouts for my first major home speaker project (come from car audio).

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                        • #13
                          Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                          Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
                          Nicely done, Don. I am sure this will be a popular build as long as stocks of the NS6 hold out
                          Thanks Johnny - still digging these NS6s - but my RS150 build blows them away in both bass and midrange clarity. Sometimes price does matter.
                          Now a firm believer in veneer - not a whole lot of work for great looking results.
                          I sure have blown some bucks on rattle cans.

                          I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                          "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                          High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
                          SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
                          My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

                          Tangband W6-sub

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                          • #14
                            Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                            Don, price always matters it is just finding out what that price means So many variables in a driver cost that have nothing to do with the construction of the driver itself for price to be a reliable indicator, basically just a rough guide.
                            Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Maurbacs NS6 MTM

                              Originally posted by codycr6 View Post
                              beautiful build, I am going back and forth on building something similar. I really had in mind to do four Aura's per enclosure to net eight ohms per side and gain dynamics/efficiency, but how do you feel this would work with adjusting the crossover and lobing? Possibly go to a MTMWW setup on a 2.5 way configuration? How are the dynamics on your current setup for theater use? Any help would be appreciated, going back and forth between these and the SAS buyouts for my first major home speaker project (come from car audio).
                              If you haven't done any design / build / measure projects from scratch, that's a pretty ambitious project. You will need a 2.5 design to avoid lobing. If you want to play, you might try the MTM crossover, and just use a 1.5 mH on the WWs, or maybe a coil plus 8 uF cap to ground, but you could easily end up with a bump or dip around 400 Hz that would be ugly.

                              If you build these are as they are designed and high pass them at 80 Hz for home theater use with a sub, they will play very loud. I haven't heard the SAS drivers, so YYMV. Without a sub, they will play pretty loud, but not to "head banging" or "ear splitting" levels.

                              I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                              "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                              High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
                              SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
                              My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

                              Tangband W6-sub

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