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  • #16
    Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

    Originally posted by xavier View Post
    My problem is when I use the BASH amps (which I really like the sound of) the plate vibrates. Usually the music covers it up, but if it's a section of a piece that's mostly bass without much going on up higher then I can hear the plate amp buzzing and vibrating, despite being in its own vented sub-enclosure. Grrrrr..... Next time they're getting they're own cabinet.
    Hmmmmmm... I haven't tried the BASH amps so I don't have actual experience with this problem. Let me brainstorm a little with you...

    Ok... try this (if you can find the right materials.) Mount the amp with a rubber gasket "trim ring". Then, use small rubber grommets on each screw head before screwing the plate into the cabinet. When done properly, there will be no direct physical path for vibrations to work their way into the plate. The mechanical vibrations will have to travel through the rubber gasket or rubber grommets first. And that's usually lossy enough to not allow mechanical transmission of those pesky vibrations.

    The "stagger-stud" concept used in sound proofing houses sort of uses this isolation idea. In an ordinary wall, the mechanical vibrations (resulting from sound pressure waves hitting the wall) travel through the drywall... into the stud... and out the drywall on the other side because all three are mechanically coupled together with drywall screws. By switching to "stagger-studded" walls, the direct mechanical coupling is eliminated, and sound attenuation is significantly better.


    Another thing that you might try:
    ... is to figure out where to best damp the offending plate with some sticky backed linoleum tile pieces. (hopefully out of site, on the inside)

    Think of a child's toy xylophone. Those thin pieces of metal ring pretty loud when they're supported ONLY at the two mounting points. Touch the metal anywhere else with your finger and you dampen the sound to almost zero. It all has to do with Nodes and anti-nodes... use them to your advantage to solve the BASH amp plate vibration problem. There will probably be a few key spots that you can attach the linoleum to help dampen the offending vibrations.

    Hope my rambling helps. (two reasonable approaches based on principles of Physics and Mechanical Engineering.)

    Seems like the manufacturer should have addressed this issue. You're probably not the only one that encountered the plate vibrations.
    ~Marty

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    • #17
      Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

      Originally posted by bkeane1259 View Post
      Looking sweeeet, but pray tell, how does one do a 1 1/4" chamfer??
      Easy, run the cab through the table saw with the blade set to 45 degrees. Subtract the desired chamfer size from the width of the cab to get your fence distance, make a pass, flip the cab and repeat until you've done all four sides. Or if you have access to a shaper (router table on steroids) and can find a bit that large, that would do the trick. I'm guessing there are a lot more of us with a table saw than there are with a shaper, myself included.
      My modest builds:
      Armadillo TM, A.K.A. Lil' Dillo
      Tarkus/Armadillo build #2
      Armadillo Center Channel
      Au-Rock-O Sub
      Tarkus
      Staining MDF tutorial

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      • #18
        Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

        Originally posted by bolland83 View Post
        Easy, run the cab through the table saw with the blade set to 45 degrees. Subtract the desired chamfer size from the width of the cab to get your fence distance, make a pass, flip the cab and repeat until you've done all four sides.
        I was wondering too. Thanks for the details. I'm always picking up great tips on this forum.

        Looking forward to pics of the finished sub.
        ~Marty

        Baby Eidolons
        Sapphos
        Cables (Post #54)
        Other speakers (Post #21)
        Design Thoughts (Posts: 6,10,13,33,35)
        Boundary Augmentation
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        • #19
          Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

          Gaalen,
          I just noticed your build -- back in May I'd just gone through my second foot surgery and wasn't feeling too chipper... In any case, I just wanted to compliment you on a nice job. You do amazing work. Hope it sounds as good as it looks...
          Tritrix HT:http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=222519
          Dayton 12" Subwoofer: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=222930
          Overnight Sensations: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=223751
          Cerberus sub: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...hlight=cerebus
          Duellatis: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=224943
          NTN's: http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...d.php?t=227902

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          • #20
            Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

            Now that is some bracing I can relate to!! Awesome job!!!

            Bet that sucker is nice and dead. It is always worth it being overdone. Leaves nothing to wonder.
            Builds - C-Killa - Speedsters - LithMTM - Talking Sticks - Pocket Rockets - Khanspires - Dayton RS Center - RS225/28A - Kairos - Adelphos - SEOS TD12X - Dayton 8 - Needles - 871S - eD6c - Overnight Sensations - Tritrix (ported) - Lineup F4 - Stentorians - The Cheapies - Tub Thumpers - Barbells - Tuba HT - Numerous subwoofers - probably missing a few...... :p

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            • #21
              Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

              I've heard this sub....it sounds every bit as good as it looks. Great design, I wish I'd thought of it. Also, another innovative finish from Gaelen.


              Well thought out, and very well executed. I wish I had one, and I may very well build one someday....


              Mark
              You go your way, I'll go mine. I don't care if we get there on time.

              ~Pink Floyd

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              • #22
                Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                Very nice work here. Very solid construction technique. Glad you are pleased with your results. The chamfer was a really nice touch and classed up your build significantly. Let us know when your have some final pics!

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                • #23
                  Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                  Update: Gaelen brought this sub to DIYAZ, and we all loved it, of course. Then the sneaky bastige said "How about I leave this here for a while for you to listen to?". Mission accomplished, in two days I negotiated to buy it off him, and now it's MINE!

                  Bwahahahaha!
                  You go your way, I'll go mine. I don't care if we get there on time.

                  ~Pink Floyd

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                  • #24
                    Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                    Well, since he never added any finished pics, and it is yours now, you can do it!

                    How about pictures with the finish and feet/bottom?

                    Andy.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                      Originally posted by andykriech View Post
                      Well, since he never added any finished pics, and it is yours now, you can do it!

                      How about pictures with the finish and feet/bottom?

                      Andy.
                      Here ya go...



                      You go your way, I'll go mine. I don't care if we get there on time.

                      ~Pink Floyd

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                      • #26
                        Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                        It looks WAAAY better than that in real life, the flash picked up grain that you just don't see looking at it in room. That groove that Gaelen mentioned is pretty damn groovy.;)
                        You go your way, I'll go mine. I don't care if we get there on time.

                        ~Pink Floyd

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                        • #27
                          Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                          Yeah, sorry bout the lack of finished pics on my part :o Glad to see Mark is still enjoying himself :D As you can all see, I eventually decided to go with tall rubber feet, simple and effective. As much as I love this sub, I don't really need it, the Tarkus just handles it's own business when it comes to bass, so I have something bigger planned for later on down the road, but that's another thread for another time.
                          My modest builds:
                          Armadillo TM, A.K.A. Lil' Dillo
                          Tarkus/Armadillo build #2
                          Armadillo Center Channel
                          Au-Rock-O Sub
                          Tarkus
                          Staining MDF tutorial

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                          • #28
                            Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                            Man, I love your builds.....
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                            • #29
                              Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                              That big chamfer looks great.
                              How did you cut the reveal around the front?

                              I have a very similar rss265hf/sa240b build in naked mdf that needs a finish. but since I didn't double the back baffle, I can't do the matching back chamfer. I amy not have enough room around the driver either. Hmmm.





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                              • #30
                                Re: Au-Rock-o Sub, yeah I've been busy.

                                Did you sketchup the design before you built?
                                " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                                Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                                Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                                http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                                http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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