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  • Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

    It is with great pride and minor disappointment that I show off my first design – the Arias. The pride comes from the fact that I’m extremely proud of these speakers, and I’m thrilled with how they sound and the overall result.

    My disappointment stems only from the fact that I am introducing these on this board and not at InDIYana 2013. These were my entry to the Black Box design competition, but I was unable to attend the fest.

    So, I present them here for your enjoyment and pleasure. I hope someone out there takes a chance on building these, because I feel they represent an extraordinary value and present the listener with a wall of superb sound.

    My main design goal for my first set of speakers was to build something for my cousin who will be graduating high-school this
    summer and will be attending college to study music. She’s an opera singer and was completely floored when she traveled to Austin for a visit last summer and I was able to show her what her operas sounded like on a great set of speakers.

    So, I wanted to build her a set of speakers to give her the entry point into the world of hi-fi audio and enjoy the Arias she loves in the manner they were presented to the original audience. Hence the name - “Arias”.

    I spent quite a bit of time on driver selection, trying to decide between paper or aluminum woofers, tweeter selection, etc. It was around the time I was making my driver choices when Wolf announced the Black Box competition, and I decided to make my design fit into the parameters of that competition.

    It took quite a bit of research, simulation, and smart shopping, but I was able to fit just under the $150/pair requirement.
    For the woofer, I had settled in on the Dayton RS150 because of the great reviews over on Zaph’s site and other places, the availability of FRD and ZMA files, and that I could sim the speakers down to the upper 40’s in a ported enclosure. The way the Black Box competition set up, I ended with the RS150-4 version to save a little cost. The RS150-4, at $35.62/ea, is about $4 cheaper than the RS150-8.

    For the tweeter, I really wanted to try out a ring-radiator because of the way they are known for clarity and crispness. This was going to be important for the listening of female voices and classical music. I searched for a while, but the end choice was easy – the Vifa XT25SC90-04. I was willing to go for one of the larger siblings of this tweet, but the Black Box competition forced me to go slightly cheaper. It is available for $21.90 at Madisound, which is about $3 cheaper than Parts Express.

    To build the cabinets, I wanted to stick within the Black Box competition parameters, but I also wanted to make this design easy to build. So, I settled in on the same dimensions as the Dayton 0.38 cu. ft. pre-made cabinets available at PE. These are 8”w by 14”h by 10.5”d, not including the grilles. I made my boxes out of ¾” MDF, but the design should easily work in those pre-made cabs as well.

    The woofer is centered on the baffle, and the centers of the tweeter and port are 2.5” from the top and bottom respectively. All drivers and the port are centered horizontally. The baffle has a ½” roundover because that’s the router bit I had available. The port itself is made of 2” PVC from the plumbing section of a big-box store and is mounted half-way into the baffle from the back side. Then, I used a ¼” roundover bit to create a flare for the port opening. The total length from the back of the port to the front of the baffle is 6 ¾“. With this, the box measured out to be tuned at about 48Hz. This was a little lower than I had intended, but it works pretty darned well. I added two internal braces that are ¾” by 2”. One is mounted horizontally behind the tweeter and the other is mounted vertically behind the woofer. Both are centered on the side panels of the design. I’m not sure just how much these braces are doing inside the panels, but I had the leftover wood, so I added them. I did chamfer the back of the baffle around the woofer mounting screws, but I’m not sure that this is necessary.
    The cabinet’s back wall, top, and some of the sides are lined with PE’s 260-516 acoustic foam. I purchased only one sheet of this for both cabinets, so that’s why the entire side walls are not covered – there wasn’t enough. I also added about 4 handfuls of Poly-Fill pillow stuffing to the cabinets. The front baffles are removable – I used triangular pieces of wood in the corners of the box to create a place for T-Nuts. The baffles then mount with flat-head furniture bolts I found at home depot. I recessed the heads of those bolts to be flush with the baffle. Note that the woofer and tweeter are also recessed flush. To connect to the outside world, I used PE’s 260-283 round terminal cups.

    I simmed out the crossover with Jeff’s wonderful PCD tool, and came up with a LR4 design centered around 2500Hz or so. Doing some smart shopping landed me over on Erse Audio’s site, and I placed an order for a bunch of components, not knowing if the sims would hold up in real life or not. Well, they were close, but not quite right. Armed with my Deal-of-the-Day Omnimic, I set out to find the best combination of crossover point and reverse null.

    Sparing you the details of all the combination of parts that I tried, I’ll simply provide you with the crossover values.
    The woofer uses a simple second-order parallel topology with a tank circuit to tame the RS150’s breakup. The circuit is able to obtain an LR4 slope with the crossover point still centered right around 2500Hz. The inductor value required for the project is 1.4mH. This is NOT a common value, but it’s easy to obtain if you end up purchasing the same inductor I did. I used the Erse Audio 1.5mH ALQ 20AWG air coil (part number EAC13-20-1500), and I unwound the coil exactly 12 times. This number of un-windings resulted in both of my samples hitting the 1.4mH number. Granted, I was able to double-check my work using an Audio Precision, but the same procedure netted the same result twice. If you purchase a different coil than the one I mention above, your results may vary.

    You may wonder why I chose the air-coil over an iron-core, and there are actually two reasons. First is cost. Again, I was staying within the Black Box rules. The second is the higher DCR of the air-coil provided a better integration between the woof and the tweet. The lower DCR of the iron-core (yes, I tried it) allowed the woofer to play louder and I was personally not as happy with how this sounded. Again, your mileage may vary, but this was my result.

    I added a 0.22uF capacitor (Erse Pulse-X 630V, PN = MPX63-03-0.22) across the inductor as a “tank” circuit to really clamp down on the breakup of the woofer. I tried several other values of capacitors, but 0.22uF was by far the most effective at taming the breakup in my design. You may be able to get away with 0.20uF, but I know that 0.18uF does not provide the results I desired. The shunt capacitor value is 12uF (Erse PEx 250V, PN = MET25-05-12.0/PB). Other than the tank capacitor, I used mylar caps throughout to save costs. I have not tested with any other cap types, so your mileage may vary. In series with the shunt capacitor, I added a 1-ohm, 10W resistor (Erse EWR10-05-1.0/PB). This provides a resistive path for ultrasonic frequencies, and will help prevent some amplifiers from going unstable due to the tank circuit.

    The tweeter circuit uses a third order parallel topology with an attenuation pad to obtain an LR4 slope. The circuit starts off with a 3.6 ohm series resistor (Erse EWR10-05-3.6/PB) to provide uniform attenuation throughout the tweeter band. Following is a series 6.0uF, 250V mylar cap (Erse MET25-05-6.00/PB) and a shunt 0.200 air-coil inductor (Erse EAC15-20-200). The third stage is another 6.0uF series capacitor (Erse MET25-05-6.00/PB). Finally, I placed a 30-ohm 10W resistor (Erse EWR10-05-30.0/PB) across the tweeter terminals to help tame the resonant frequency of the tweeter a bit.

    I had to pay very careful attention to how I mounted the crossover components because the port for the box is very long, and basically takes up most of the center of the box, leaving very little room to work with. I mounted the components to a RadioShack perfboard and paid close attention so that I could mount them along the sides of the box’s port. The woofer’s air-coil inductor must stand up vertically, or it wouldn’t fit. Close attention must also be paid to the capacitors. Check out the picture to see how I did it. Note that the wire entering the center of the perfboard is the entry from the terminal cups.

    In putting them together, the largest challenge came from determining which post of the tweeter was positive. I was only able to do it by watching the reverse null with the Omnimic.

    Again, I hope someone gets around to building these. I’m very pleased by them and I feel that most anyone would be as well.

    Thanks!

    Tyger23

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    The crossover design:
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    The final measured design, showing a very deep reverse null. Note - I'm not sure I took the measurements right when I tried to sum the woofer and port responses, so I really don't trust anything below 300Hz in this picture. Maybe it's right, but I just don't feel comfortable saying it is without further measurements:

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    Last edited by tyger23; 04-20-2013, 11:10 PM.
    DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
    The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
    The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
    The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
    AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

  • #2
    Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

    FYI - The grilles are optional, but they were required for the Black Box competition, so I built them. To make the grilles, I used ½” MDF I had laying around. I cut them as a 7”x13” rectangle so that they would leave ½” margin of the original baffle showing. I then cut out the centers, basically leaving a ½” all the way around except in the corners, where I left enough material to cover the baffle bolt heads. I did this so I could add magnets to the back of the grille and the magnets would stick to the bolt heads. At the behest of my father-in-law, I did leave an off-center bar across the middle that basically fits between the port hole and the woofer. This was to “add strength” to the grille, but I’m not sure that it was needed. Use if you want. I routed all my inside and outside edges of the grille with a ¼” roundover bit, painted them and wrapped them with grille cloth.

    As for the costs – as I built them:

    Dayton RS150-4 - $35.62
    Vifa XT25SC90-04 - $21.90
    Erse 1.5mH Air Coil (unwind to 1.4mH) - $5.58
    Erse 0.2mH Air Coil - $2.61
    Erse 12uF Mylar – $2.97
    (2) Erse 6.0uF Mylar - $3.52
    Erse 0.22uF Pulse-X - $1.37
    Erse 1.0ohm 10W Resistor - $0.35
    Erse 3.6ohm 10W Resistor - $0.35
    Erse 30ohm 10W Resistor - $0.35

    Total = $74.62/each, $149.24/pair


    Overall, I’m extremely pleased with this design. They sound really good to me, have a very diffuse sound field and seemingly disappear. While this is my first attempt at DIY speaker design, it’s worth noting that I’ve been an audio professional for 15+ years. I officially make my living on the digital side of things, but more than likely I’ve actually tuned one of the computer systems you’ve used. Don’t take out your computer audio frustrations on me, though. I have no say in what speakers are included – I simply have to make the crap speakers they provide me sound as good as possible. I have tuned well over 100 different computer designs in the past 15 years. Some good, some bad, some really bad.

    My profession does allow me access to some of the foremost audiophiles in the electronics industry, though. Several have listened to my design, and all have come back more than impressed with what $150 can do. I pitted my design up against two competitors that I had around the office.

    The first battle was with a set of Paradigm Atom V2's. Even ignoring the bass (the Paradigms are much smaller), the A-B proved to be no comparison. The Paradigms came across sounding harsh in the treble and presented a pinpoint sound field, which is not desirable to me.

    Also, the tweets on the Paradigms were much brighter, and at first, I liked that better than my design. However, as we started listening to more critical music, you could hear the reverberation decay on high-hat hits much better on my design. On the Paradigms, the same cymbal hits just sounded muffled and muted. So, louder is not always better! Also, all listeners seemed to agree after listening for a while that the paradigms weren't necessarily louder, but perhaps just had more high-order distortion.

    I also noticed a big difference on one song that used a "shaker". With the Paradigms, the shaker sounded like someone was hissing into the microphone (imitating a snake). With my design, it sounded like a shaker.

    The second battle was with my build of Jeff Bagby’s Continuum's, and (believe it or not) no clear winner emerged. This shocked me because I expected the Continuum's to tan my hide. There were some songs I definitely preferred the more articulate treble that comes from the RS-28's in the Continuum's, but my design has significantly more low-end and that can't be ignored. The crossover in the Continuum's is defiantly a lot smoother, but it didn't hamper my design too much.

    Overall, the Continuum's with a sub would have won - hands down. But sans sub, the battle was much closer than I expected. One person preferred my design outright, stating that they were more "airy". Some felt my design was "winning" because of the extra bass, but that extra bass can make things a bit sloppy when Xmax is exceeded. Another person said my design had much more mid-range, which helped on some songs but hurt on others.
    Last edited by tyger23; 04-20-2013, 11:08 PM.
    DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
    The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
    The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
    The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
    AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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    • #3
      Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

      Very nice read! Can't wait to see pics/graphs

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      • #4
        Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

        Sorry for the delay in getting some pics posted. Life gets in the way sometimes.

        Here's some of the build shots:

        I started with a 4x8 sheet and had home depot rip the 4' side down into two 4'x14" pieces. My chopsaw isn't quite big enough to handle the whole cut, so I had to cut and flip and cut to get the panels:
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        Here you see the beginnings of a panel getting glued up:
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        Clamping down the boxes with the braces inside. Note that the box is upside-down in this picture:
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        Here are the corner slices I cut out to hold the T-Nuts that hold on the front baffle:
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        To attach the corner slices, I had to create nifty little inverse-corner slices that cradled the outside corner and allowed my clamps to have something flat to grip with:
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        DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
        The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
        The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
        The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
        AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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        • #5
          Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

          Test-fitting the drivers, and showing the chamfered back. I don't have a simple 45-degree router bit, so I chamfered with a 1/2" roundover:
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          These next two show the drivers mounted to the baffles. Note the 1/4" roundover on the front of the port hole and note the recessed hole on the back of the port that allows me to mount the 2" PVC into the baffle:
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          This shows the mounting recess for the terminal cup:
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          The first box is built! You'll notice that I actually used my router to dig out about 1/16" of an inch of the inner edge of the box sides, top, and bottom. This allows just a little bit of room for the foam gasket to compress. This allows the baffle to sit flush to the box, rather than slightly off the front of the box due to the bulge of the gasket:
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          DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
          The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
          The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
          The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
          AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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          • #6
            Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

            These two images show how the port was mounted into the baffle:
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            Here's the box with the acoustic-foam mounted to the top, back, and some of the sides. Also, you'll see the poly-fill is in there quite a bit:
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            Here are the pics of my crossover. First is the breadboard mock-up I used while testing, and second is the final layout as it was integrated into the box:
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            DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
            The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
            The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
            The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
            AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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            • #7
              Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

              Here's a shot showing how the crossover mounts to the bottom of the box. Note how the components are positioned so that the port doesn't interfere:
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              A few cabinet add-ons. First, I decided to recess the baffle bolt heads. Since I had already drilled out the bolt holes, using my fortner bits was out of the question. So, I had to do it by hand with a dremel tool:
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              This shows how I designed the grille frame:
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              Last pics for tonight shows the Arias going head-to-head with my version of Jeff Bagby's Continuum's. This also shows a relative size reference:
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              DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
              The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
              The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
              The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
              AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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              • #8
                Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                Nice looking build, I'm always jealous of people who can actually make their driver recesses fit well. I usually end up with a gap, one day I'll learn.

                Also nice avatar!

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                • #9
                  Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                  Nice build.
                  I see you like the name Aria, so on the assumption that great minds think alike, let me introduce you to the Aria Family. Its a range of boutique speakers I have been designing for sale, and like you I like the name as it suits what speakers are for
                  I can add your design to the family as well if you like

                  Meet the Family.
                  The Aria II's



                  Aria Petites


                  And the Aria HT's.
                  "Gotta Love Dat Sound..."

                  Currently Building ..PMS

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                  • #10
                    Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                    Seems like the word 'success' is in order here. Great job and write up. Almost like reading a good book.
                    Last edited by the kid; 04-23-2013, 04:49 PM. Reason: I had failed to spell success successfully.
                    If dynamite was dangerous, do you think they'd sell it to an idiot like me?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                      All,

                      I'll hopefully be finishing up the final paint on them this weekend. Since I didn't attend the black-box competition, I decided to hold off on painting them the competition required black. Instead, they're getting a high-school becoming college teenage girl paint job. They'll be aqua with grey grills, and a silver glitter fade from top to bottom.

                      Totally girly, but hey - these are a gift for a girl. They'll be unique and a conversation starter/ice breaker for her in the dorm room.

                      Kiwi, I had done a search before choosing the Aira name, and I had not found any other designs. I hope you don't mind me piggy-backing on it. I felt like the name was appropriate since these are going to an opera singer/lover.

                      One more item of note (that should be obvious, but I'll state it anyway):
                      THESE ARE 4-OHM SPEAKERS.

                      Just FYI.
                      DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
                      The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
                      The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
                      The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
                      AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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                      • #12
                        Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                        The Aria 5 and Aria 7 were Focal kit staples in the community back in the 90's. Very highly regarded at that time.

                        So- he isn't the first either.
                        Wolf
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                        • #13
                          Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                          Piggy back all you want

                          I enjoy watching others doing a build, and as for the name, well I found it suited the main design purpose at the time. Namely supplying something that the wife would enjoy listening to, mainly orchestral & opera.

                          She is a retired concert pianist and has a very good ear for the "correct " sound for opera and orchestration. So far so good
                          "Gotta Love Dat Sound..."

                          Currently Building ..PMS

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                          • #14
                            Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                            Quite right, the name is not necessarily original.

                            Focal are now available at a few selected dealers here in NZ.
                            Their pricing is low, top of the range is $5000.00 NZD.
                            I wonder if price reflects the reality, most speakers in this price range, B&W,Mission,PB,Kef and the likes are pretty ordinary and all have a habit of sounding somewhat similar.

                            I tend to find that speakers in this price bracket really dont sparkle all that much, or maybe owning a set of B& W's for 11 years has just made me want more from a speaker, without the price.
                            Sounds like a reason to build another set :applause:
                            "Gotta Love Dat Sound..."

                            Currently Building ..PMS

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                            • #15
                              Re: Introducing The Arias - my Black Box design. RS150-4 + XT25SC90-04

                              Just adding another smidge of implementation information:

                              The amount of wire I removed from the 1.5mH inductors was 60" (5 feet). This is just another way to double check yourself.
                              DARPA Jr - 2015 InDIYana Winner - RS180-8 + RS100P-8 + ND25FA
                              The Aria's - RS150-4 (or RS150-8) + XT25SC90
                              The Mariposa's - TEBM65C20F-8 + ND16FA
                              The Canzonetta's - RS100P-8 and ND16FA
                              AudioSource AMP-100 Mods OR Pyle PAMP1000 Mods

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