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  • Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

    Baffle by BDaniels. Some of the build here; http://techtalk.parts-express.com/sh...highlight=sb13


    c2 should be 5uf

    Left and Right speaker

    " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

    Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
    Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

    http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
    http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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    Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

    How do they sound?

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    • #3
      Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

      very nice. at first, that tweeter seemed a bit fatiguing, but I smoothed it out. that little sb13 really has some nice bass.
      " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

      Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
      Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

      http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
      http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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      • #4
        Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

        Also the Infinity tweeter appears to be quite sensitive. What is the estimated sensitivity of that tweeter? Do you think it can be crossed at 1500 hz as in Infinity Cascade models 3c and 3v?

        Can you elaborate your LCR network in the tweeter pass. What is its effect?

        Thanks in advance.

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        • #5
          Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

          without the network, there was a huge peak around 7k. it is very sensitive. would have been better to use it in a mtm.
          " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

          Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
          Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

          http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
          http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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          • #6
            Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

            I didn't see how low it could go. fs is 1600 on one of them, a bit lower on the other.
            I did do a distortion measurement and the tweeter looks good where I have it.
            " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

            Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
            Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

            http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
            http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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            • #7
              Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

              Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
              very nice. at first, that tweeter seemed a bit fatiguing, but I smoothed it out. that little sb13 really has some nice bass.
              digging the white texture Arlis - I guess those are the CNC baffles you talked about.
              You're right about the SB13 bass. Pretty amazing, really.

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              • #8
                Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                Originally posted by donradick View Post
                digging the white texture Arlis - I guess those are the CNC baffles you talked about.
                You're right about the SB13 bass. Pretty amazing, really.
                Yes, enough to be enjoyable. I spent a few hours listening to them yesterday. The others are on top of my thin towers in the living room for now.
                I have two of the 6.5 .tangband subs and a couple small plate amps so, eventually, these will be in a 2.1 setup.
                " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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                • #9
                  Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                  Nice post , thanks for sharing
                  Any plans for an MTM ?
                  I picked up a pair of those Infinity tweeters but they haven't made it off the shelf yet

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                  • #10
                    Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                    Infinity Prelude Forty also has an 1" CMMD tweeter in a waveguide, which is similar in appearance to the one used here.

                    According to the test results.

                    Even at 100 db spl level the tweeter distortion appears to be down 50 db(0.3% ?)

                    It appears that Revel has taken over the highend of Infinity brand in recent years!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                      Originally posted by kevinr View Post
                      Nice post , thanks for sharing
                      Any plans for an MTM ?
                      I picked up a pair of those Infinity tweeters but they haven't made it off the shelf yet
                      no, but I bet BDaniels could make some baffles for you. Mine didn't have room for paint spills!
                      I probably could work up a crossover if needed.
                      " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                      Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                      Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                      http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                      http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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                      • #12
                        Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                        Lowell, they look great! Looking closer at the baffle, you could probably eliminate the LCR notch on the tweeter with some judicious use of felt around the faceplate of the tweeter. I imagine it would smooth out considereably. Some gray felt would not appear out of place (too much anyways) on that baffle. You could trim it to roughly mimic the shape of the SB woofer.
                        Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                          no, but I bet BDaniels could make some baffles for you
                          Thanks for the heads up Arlis_ but I think I can do the baffles okay , just the crossover has me stymied .
                          I bought DATS . the Omnimic and a Galaxy Sound Meter along with Excel but between watching the grandchild , classes , homework and maintaining the estate I haven't made any progress so far.
                          Right now I'm working on a new birch baffle for some Seas 8 inch full rangers for a 2.8 ft. cabinet for the living room . Simple contour circuit by Seas and an impedance flattening network. My SET amp will like them.
                          I've got the Infinity tweets in storage for a future project.A pair of the buyout Klipsch Tractrix horns too .
                          I'd like to find an efficient paper woofer to match these to that will play nice with my tube amp.
                          Do you think the SB13's are a match for the Peerless 83075's ?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                            the 830875 has a big breakup kind of low ie distortion. the sb will go higher. I guess if I had a tweeter that would cross low, I would use the 830875.
                            " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                            Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                            Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                            http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                            http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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                            • #15
                              Re: Introducing SALT a SB13-Infinity 2-way

                              Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
                              Lowell, they look great! Looking closer at the baffle, you could probably eliminate the LCR notch on the tweeter with some judicious use of felt around the faceplate of the tweeter. I imagine it would smooth out considereably. Some gray felt would not appear out of place (too much anyways) on that baffle. You could trim it to roughly mimic the shape of the SB woofer.
                              I tried a 1/2 inch piece around it. It was a little lumpy and this morning it had come off. I also tried a large piece and had a hell of a time cutting it to match. I don't mind the notch so much. The holes do bug me though. I might try some more. I have some light grey as well as dark grey.
                              " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

                              Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
                              Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

                              http://www.midwestaudioclub.com/spot...owell-simpson/
                              http://s413.photobucket.com/albums/pp216/arlis/

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