Swopes 5.0

[tashspop]

Re: Swopes 5.0

I found some very similar mounts on amazon for $39

[Gordy]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Are you able to upload a video of the sound quality? I'm thinking about building these and would love a little sample. Yes, I know it doesn't do it justice but would rather have something than nothing. Have you ever heard the Silver Flute mid woofers? If so, how do these two compare?

I don't think an uploaded video would be an accurate representation of the quality of sound that comes from the Swopes. I also have not heard the Silver Flute mid woofers so I really can't compare. What I can say is that I am very happy with what I built. Compared to what I had the Swopes are hands down more refined and have a more realistic sound than many of the HT speakers that I have heard.

Fabulous build, fabulous build thread. Attention to detail, amazing, documentation skill, extreme, shop disgustingly neat and organized, ;-) And, the resulting hunks of walnut awesomeness speak for themselves.

Love all the ergonomic and space saving ideas... and I'd like to know where you get those wall hangers for clamps.

Thanks for the kind words. The link for the wall mount brackets are above in my post. It looks like they are no longer available where I purchased them from.

[jonpike]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Fabulous build, fabulous build thread. Attention to detail, amazing, documentation skill, extreme, shop disgustingly neat and organized, ;-) And, the resulting hunks of walnut awesomeness speak for themselves.

Love all the ergonomic and space saving ideas... and I'd like to know where you get those wall hangers for clamps.

[xsundown]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Are you able to upload a video of the sound quality? I'm thinking about building these and would love a little sample. Yes, I know it doesn't do it justice but would rather have something than nothing. Have you ever heard the Silver Flute mid woofers? If so, how do these two compare?

[Gordy]

Re: Swopes 5.0

hope you got the center dialed in.

what mounts are those on the TM surrounds? I need to get some for mine and those set nice and close to the wall.

Yes the center channel now has the correct polarity - reverse on the 5". I purchased the rear mounts at Crutchfield a few years ago. I drilled holes in the mounts themselves to run the speaker wire through so when mounted there would be no wire showing.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_121AM40B/Pinpoint-AM40.html?tp=586

[tashspop]

Re: Swopes 5.0

hope you got the center dialed in.

what mounts are those on the TM surrounds? I need to get some for mine and those set nice and close to the wall.

[bkeane1259]

Re: Swopes 5.0

.....the 5" moves in and the 6"s move out.

THAT is how it should be.

[Gordy]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Just as a sanity check, also make sure your HT receiver is set for a CC. In other words, make sure the center channel option is enabled in the receiver's config. Sounds silly right? However, many people have forgotten to switch from phantom to CC in the past. Seen it before. Done it before. :o

Great call on the sanity check. It was set to CC correctly. I tested the phrase on all of the speakers earlier and thought the CC was correct. But, the 5" moves ever so slightly with the battery test that I guess I could not tell. Before I checked it again with the battery I changed it inside the box at the crossover then put it back together. That made a huge difference. No longer hollow or echoy. Also did a battery test again, the 5" moves in and the 6"s move out. It is getting late and I will do some more listening tomorrow. These are slowly but surly getting dialed in.

Thanks for all the feedback folks I really appreciate it.

[bkeane1259]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Just as a sanity check, also make sure your HT receiver is set for a CC. In other words, make sure the center channel option is enabled in the receiver's config. Sounds silly right? However, many people have forgotten to switch from phantom to CC in the past. Seen it before. Done it before. :o

[bkeane1259]

Re: Swopes 5.0

So that could be a possibility. In looking at the diagram it looks like the 5" and tweet should be reverse polarity. Am I seeing or reading it wrong? The polarity symbol of these drivers looks like a (-) but also looks like 2 dashes with the vertical part of the (+) missing.

That's definitley reverse polarity on the TWEET & MID.

[Gordy]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Sounds like you have one of the driver's out of phase, more than likely the mid. I know you mentioned you checked all the polarity, but just making sure you know that the CC has both the mid and tweeter out of phase to the woofers. Sounds simple, but sometimes the simple answer is the last one we try.
Your build is stunning, great job on the veneer and finishing.

So that could be a possibility. In looking at the diagram it looks like the 5" and tweet should be reverse polarity. Am I seeing or reading it wrong? The polarity symbol of these drivers looks like a (-) but also looks like 2 dashes with the vertical part of the (+) missing.

[bullittstang]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Listening to them more this evening, the MTMs and TMs sound spot on. The CC is what I am having a hard time with. It is very echo-like and sounds like it is in a tunnel. I have tried different levels of polyfill and that does make a difference but still echoy. Right now it is fully stuffed and that seemed to clam it down some, but all voices sound like they are in a tunnel.

Thoughts?

Sounds like you have one of the driver's out of phase, more than likely the mid. I know you mentioned you checked all the polarity, but just making sure you know that the CC has both the mid and tweeter out of phase to the woofers. Sounds simple, but sometimes the simple answer is the last one we try.
Your build is stunning, great job on the veneer and finishing.

[Gordy]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Listening to them more this evening, the MTMs and TMs sound spot on. The CC is what I am having a hard time with. It is very echo-like and sounds like it is in a tunnel. I have tried different levels of polyfill and that does make a difference but still echoy. Right now it is fully stuffed and that seemed to clam it down some, but all voices sound like they are in a tunnel.

Thoughts?

[Mike220]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Sweeeet! Those really came together nicely. Now you can sit back and enjoy!

[Gordy]

Re: Swopes 5.0

Disconnect it from the amp, hit the input terminals with a AA battery, and watch the cone motion. If they are the same, than this is not the problem.

And this is what I found after doing the simple phase test. The top 5" mid in the right MTM. Switched the pins and fixed, night and day difference. These things are incredible! I went ahead and checked everything else. everything else was in-phase.