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  • UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

    Yep the UM12 as a woofer! We used the PE knockdown 2 cube sealed cabinets and modified them to accept a CSS APR15. Tuning is right about 27hz. The mid/tweeter cabinet is about a half cube, sealed and lined with mattress topper and a couple of handfuls of bamboo/poly fill. They house an Eclipse W6520R midbass and Dayton RS28F tweeter. Crossover is obviously outboard. We are working on an enclosure for it now that it is finalized. The crossover board is big at 12x24. I did this for a couple of reasons. One was to give those resistors room to breathe. Second, we are going to stand them on end so that the mid/tweet connecetions are at the top and the woofer and input terminals are at the bottom. Oak fronts and duratex on the rest.

    Crossover points came in right about 300 and 1.8khz. Second order filters all around. There are a lot of resistors on there and for good reason. One being that I designed it so that the owner could adjust the mid/tweet level to his preference and second for additional power handling. There is a dip down into the 3ohm range on the lower end, but with the amp Mike is using it isn't a problem. The rest of the range is closer to about 6ohms overall. We went with air core due to the risk of power saturation. I know its not very common, but Mike has about 1200-1400w/ch available and is known for using just about every drop of it.

    Speaking of amps, he is using a Crown Macro Reference for power. The rest of the gear is Emotiva CD, DAC, and Preamp. The room is about 20x20. The cabinets are about 3ft from the backwall. Mike has is HT system on the wall to the right. This system replaces a pair of Modula MTs and a Lab15 for the sub. Those are now designated to HT duty.

    The imaging is very good, solid soundstage. The driver integration seems to be very solid. Female vocals are clear and crisp. One of my favorite discs to use is the IowaDIY demo from 2013. They not only handled everything very well, but really did that demo justice

    Now they need a name. Mike is my closest friend and has walked with me through some very difficult times. This is a guy that will do anything to help someone out. He and his wife adopted a young sibling group (they are now 6 and 5) even though he recently turned 61. It was a pleasure and honor to work on these with Mike. He knew what he wanted and what he was looking for going in. This has been a project we have been working on little by little for about 2 years now. So if anyone has an idea for a name, let me know. I'm open and willing to entertain about anything.

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    Edit: A name has been chosen. The Trinity. 3 in 1, chosen by the owner. Thanks all for the suggestions. I shall keep them in mind for future builds. All excellent.
    Last edited by isaeagle4031; 12-27-2014, 05:26 AM. Reason: Name chosen
    https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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    Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

    Four big boxes of whoop a$$?

    Just kidding, no idea what to name them though. Beautiful build, Chuck.
    Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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    • #3
      Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

      Your welcome

      Je vous/t'en prie

      Pronounced jeuh vooz ohn pree, or jeuh tohn pree, this is the most heartfelt way of saying 'you're welcome' without expressing something like 'it was my pleasure'. Je vous en prie (for strangers) or jeuh t'en prie (for friends, etc.) is a way of telling someone that they really are welcome. While de rien can be a somewhat automatized response to merci (mair-see), je vous en prie signals that the speaker really understands that the other person is truly thankful and that he or she is truly welcome.

      Note: The 'j' in 'je' sounds similar to the 's' in 'measure' as opposed to the hard pronunciation of the Anglophone 'j'.
      " To me, the soundstage presentation is more about phase and distortion and less about size. However, when you talk about bass extension, there's no replacement for displacement". Tyger23. 4.2015

      Quote Originally Posted by hongrn. Oct 2014
      Do you realize that being an American is like winning the biggest jackpot ever??

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      • #4
        Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

        Thanks guys. When its all done there will be 6 big boxes. Mike did a great job on the cabinets.

        Lowell, I like that a lot! I had no idea you were such the linguist!
        https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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        • #5
          Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

          "Sunstead"

          Wait.............. no.....

          "Tenacity" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tenacity
          Later,
          Wolf
          "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
          "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
          "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
          "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

          *InDIYana event website*

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          • #6
            Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

            Wow, Ben came up with a name that didn't come from Google's 13th century nomadic illuminati thesaurus.
            Tenacity is nice!

            Beautiful build! So very happy to see a UM12 as a woofer.

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            • #7
              Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

              Originally posted by ROTECH View Post
              Wow, Ben came up with a name that didn't come from Google's 13th century nomadic illuminati thesaurus.
              Tenacity is nice!

              Beautiful build! So very happy to see a UM12 as a woofer.
              I just find names that fit style, mantra, or in this case- purpose. Tenacity is a good one.

              Later,
              Wolf
              "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
              "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
              "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
              "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

              *InDIYana event website*

              Photobucket pages:
              https://app.photobucket.com/u/wolf_teeth_speaker

              My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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              • #8
                Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                The "UMBridges"
                Brian Steele
                www.diysubwoofers.org

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                • #9
                  Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                  Looks great! Are there any special cabinet considerations you need make when the mid and the tweet are placed above a sub like that? I've been using your Intrepids as a reference for an upcoming build where placing the mid and the tweet above the sub is ideal. I lack the skill set come up with my own design, and will be using someone else's design to go above infinity subs.

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                  • #10
                    Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                    Cool design. Those APR15's sure are sweet (I have 4)

                    edit: Name? maybe UltiMonitor
                    Last edited by Jay1; 12-12-2014, 05:51 PM.
                    http://jaysspeakerpage.weebly.com/

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                    • #11
                      Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                      Chuck, those look beautiful.

                      As for a name, I'd submit "Agape" - a selfless love, a love passionately committed to the well-being of the other - since it fits your description of your friend so well.
                      Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with Windows.

                      We are passionate about great sound at whatever level we can afford, so don't let the audio atheists reduce the experience to a set of numbers and squiggly lines. - jbruner

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                      • #12
                        Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                        Originally posted by fixthedoor View Post
                        Looks great! Are there any special cabinet considerations you need make when the mid and the tweet are placed above a sub like that? I've been using your Intrepids as a reference for an upcoming build where placing the mid and the tweet above the sub is ideal. I lack the skill set come up with my own design, and will be using someone else's design to go above infinity subs.
                        Make sure the mid/tweet cabinet is solidly coupled. I didn't do that with the Intrepids and wished I had. They will move when I really push them. In both designs, I am using the subs as more of a woofer and crossing them at about 300. This gave me the power handling I needed and the strong midbass attack we were after. If I can help in any way with your design, let me know.
                        https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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                        • #13
                          Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                          Thanks guys. The owner, my friend Mike, did all of the cabinet work. And the WAF on them is actually a quite high. Of course they are in the basement
                          https://www.facebook.com/Mosaic-Audi...7373763888294/

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                          • #14
                            Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                            My really artsy side is kicking in now. How about
                            Blowing Chunks
                            (Not a shot at you, just my liking of cool names.)

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                            • #15
                              Re: UM12 based 3way: Needs a name

                              Originally posted by Thezeek View Post
                              My really artsy side is kicking in now. How about
                              Blowing Chunks
                              (Not a shot at you, just my liking of cool names.)
                              That better suits his Armonicos, but they're closer to Pooping Chunks! :p
                              Later,
                              Wolf
                              "Wolf, you shall now be known as "King of the Zip ties." -Pete00t
                              "Wolf and speakers equivalent to Picasso and 'Blue'" -dantheman
                              "He is a true ambassador for this forum and speaker DIY in general." -Ed Froste
                              "We're all in this together, so keep your stick on the ice!" - Red Green aka Steve Smith

                              *InDIYana event website*

                              Photobucket pages:
                              https://app.photobucket.com/u/wolf_teeth_speaker

                              My blog/writeups/thoughts here at PE:
                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/blog.php?u=4102

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