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    Team,

    I suddenly got the bug for a small sub, and once I looked at the universe of solutions, I
    realized that I'd be very hard pressed to do better than the Voxel.

    I got the "blessed delivery" from PE on a Wed, and started planning the build.
    Box material is 1/2 BB from Rockler - I followed the dimensions pretty closely, but
    my ply was only 11 3/4 wide, and I wanted the box to be a little less high and a little
    deeper. Volume in liters was about .5L larger, because I wanted to go with a plate amp.
    I used the PE 25W plate amp:
    sa25-25w-subwoofer-plate-amplifier--300-782

    I actually did build it in one Saturday afternoon and put it into service immediately.

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    The amp just looked so CUTE on the back side:

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    I really didn't have any idea how I wanted to finish it - initially I'd thought maybe I'd just clear coat it,
    but I wasn't really happy with the quality of the edges and joints, and had used brads on the front to hold
    it together while gluing. And oh yeah, it was such a fast build that I used a jigsaw to cut the holes for the
    driver, port and plate amp. In each case, the edge was covered, so it was not critical, and a lot faster
    than using my router.

    In the end, I tried several stains and clear coats on some scraps, and liked Red Oak the best. Even
    though stain on BB is discouraged, I felt this was a fun, quick project with no aspirations to the heirloom speaker
    pantheon. :rolleyes:

    The final result after clear coating with MinWax Wipe-On poly, is acceptable.
    Funny thing, I really like it as is - something about the unevenness and mild blotching gives it a bit of an antique feel.

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    Overall, I am VERY pleased with the SQ. Music on my standard Targas (F3 about46) sounded great, but the sub
    adds authority and another 1/2 octave. I do get the feeling though, that the W5 would like about 100 watts to really
    sing.

    Oh yeah, when I first played it, I was getting some wierd buzzing at loud bass passages.
    Turned out that I'd used some 3/4 ply squares for the feet, and they would rub or dance around on our
    bare hardwood floor. I fixed that with standard self-stick felt pads.
    Last edited by donradick; 02-10-2015, 06:56 AM. Reason: added jigsaw cutting

    I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
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    Re: Yet another Voxel build

    Originally posted by donradick View Post
    Oh yeah, when I first played it, I was getting some wierd buzzing at loud bass passages.
    Turned out that I'd used some 3/4 ply squares for the feet, and they would rub or dance around on our
    bare hardwood floor. I fixed that with standard self-stick felt pads.
    I gotta say in reply to that-
    My buddy I built the second Triumph for, thought he blew it one night. He said "it just stopped playing". He told me the next day that it had vibrated the power plug out of the power strip in his entertainment center.

    Whoever said small bass can't be good hasn't heard the 1138 or 1139,
    Wolf
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    • #3
      Re: Yet another Voxel build

      Thanks Wolf. Working up an 8 inch sub project next.

      Wife says "We need about 3 more subs around the house." Woohoo!

      I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
      "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

      High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
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      • #4
        Re: Yet another Voxel build

        I like how you fit the plate amp on there. Do you have a sketch of measurements of its placement on the cabinet?
        Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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        • #5
          Re: Yet another Voxel build

          Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
          I like how you fit the plate amp on there. Do you have a sketch of measurements of its placement on the cabinet?
          Well, I didn't have a sketch a few minutes ago:D

          My outside dimensions are 11 3/4 W X 8 1/2 D x 7 D.

          the plate amp is about 6 1/4 inches square, with most of the components protruding on the
          right side and bottom. The lip is about 1/2 inch from the bottom and right hand side.

          Crude drawing, but this sort of shows how the plate amp fits with the port.

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          Originally, I'd planned on the amp placement on the left side of the back.
          After everything was cut, I did a test fit, and the amp hit the port flare inside.
          I flipped the rear board left to right, (got real lucky) and the amp fit perfectly.

          Let me know if you need more specifics. Thanks for a great design!

          I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
          "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

          High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
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          My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

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          • #6
            Re: Yet another Voxel build

            Thank you for the sketch and the narrative. I think many will find it informative.

            That's the reason I never formally publish my sub designs; I feel like most of them need some sort of "exploded" diagram to explain how the pieces fit together.
            Isn't it about time we started answering rhetorical questions?

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            • #7
              Re: Yet another Voxel build

              Originally posted by Paul Carmody View Post
              Thank you for the sketch and the narrative. I think many will find it informative.

              That's the reason I never formally publish my sub designs; I feel like most of them need some sort of "exploded" diagram to explain how the pieces fit together.
              One of these days I need to sit down and learn Google Sketchup. Wish it did dimensioning.

              I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
              "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

              High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
              SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
              My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

              Tangband W6-sub

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              • #8
                Re: Yet another Voxel build

                Originally posted by donradick View Post
                One of these days I need to sit down and learn Google Sketchup. Wish it did dimensioning.
                Is this what you mean?
                I was visiting the SketchUp Community Forums the other day and noticed a few tips pertaining to dimensions. They were shared by bert and t...
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                • #9
                  Re: Yet another Voxel build

                  Originally posted by Sydney View Post
                  Wow, that's it! No more excuses for me.

                  I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                  "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                  High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
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                  My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

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                  • #10
                    Re: Yet another Voxel build

                    Sketchup really helps when designing cabs. You can model virtually any joint you want to do and be sure that everything fits. You can create an exploded view, in addition to an assembled view, that will have the dimensions for each piece.
                    I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Yet another Voxel build

                      Good job... nice looking build Don!!!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Yet another Voxel build

                        Originally posted by rmeinke View Post
                        Good job... nice looking build Don!!!

                        Thanks bud!

                        I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                        "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                        High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
                        SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
                        My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

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                        • #13
                          Re: Yet another Voxel build

                          Very nice building Don.....It looks awesome!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Yet another Voxel build

                            Originally posted by FourForty View Post
                            Very nice building Don.....It looks awesome!!!!!
                            thanks man - I'm very happy with how it turned out.

                            I think I hear a difference - wow, it's amazing!" Ethan Winer: audio myths
                            "As God is my witness I'll never be without a good pair of speakers!" Scarlett O'Hara

                            High value, high quality RS150/TB28-537SH bookshelf - TARGAS NLA!
                            SB13/Vifa BC25SC06 MTM DCR Galeons-SB13-MTM
                            My Voxel min sub Yet-another-Voxel-build

                            Tangband W6-sub

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                            • #15
                              Re: Yet another Voxel build

                              Yes, I understand that feeling too!!!

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