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  • #31
    Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

    Kenny, the decoupling rings are key here. There's really no need for separate compartments for the different drivers.
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    • #32
      Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

      So this is a subwoofer? I am having trouble figuring out what I am looking at here exactly...

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      • #33
        Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

        Originally posted by kenny_k View Post
        So....... it looks like you use a universal box with four standard openings. Then, spacers(decoupling rings) and caps(hole covers) for each finished speaker configuration. Plus, someone else designs your crossovers. Is this on the right track?
        Somewere in this thread it is mentioning that these enclosures are 'Build Ups' so not a / the final product! I allways build this way to learm and aquiere more & better / different ways as well as find any pit falls and avoid them fwhen building the final product.

        rgs UpperCut

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        • #34
          Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

          To achieve the better result a ring type method can be used in box format. The product inputs which are to be scaled can make for the strange result, which problem they cause depend upon frame and ideal. Layer cutting of speaker environments lead to the bouncy sound, unless structure is applied on the hollow space. Making sound as Artists Intend for product make to fitting frames in box too big on the asymmetrical frame woofer type.

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          • #35
            Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

            Now I get it!

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            • #36
              Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

              What is the significance of the "foil" in the box and the smaller washers on the decoupling ring?
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              • #37
                Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                Originally posted by kenny_k View Post
                So....... it looks like you use a universal box with four standard openings. Then, spacers(decoupling rings) and caps(hole covers) for each finished speaker configuration. Plus, someone else designs your crossovers. Is this on the right track?
                First up this is not a universal enclosure (sorry I do not build boxes as in Rectangular Coffins!!!) and as this is a build up it has possibilities of what can be used like 1 PR, 2 PRs or well if you game maybe 3 PRs, but that is something I have not though about but could or definatly would work better then a cube which were around at some stage. Now I did in the nintees and long before that (as my first trade I worked in was electronics) my own crossovers yetliving in New Zealand which has as much as nothing when it come to quality parts etc. I have found an outfit overseas which does that all for you and to a very reasonable price with great advise and skill say the least - USING ONLY the best available components I could by elsewere but for very much more money which I do not have. So that is why I let my Hi-Fi quality crossover build somewere else for me.
                I like passive crossover the most and I do have them and use them everywere in automotive as well including my own two sound vans.

                Originally posted by kenny_k View Post
                What is the significance of the "foil" in the box and the smaller washers on the decoupling ring?
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                The significance of that foil as you call it is rather plentyfull but that is just not a normal foil !!! the silver coloured layer is a very speacial layer which is shielding some other material(s) I use for my .... one of two.
                (now here we go again LET's rattle the cage) 'The Reduction / Elimination of resonance through ways of newer and far more advanced Energy Absorption & Wave Dampening techniques as well as through different ways of build up enclosure shape Design & Development.' and which I call relating to the foil question '‘Air Cushioning - Area Trapped Air Arresting Motion Suspension’.
                And refering to the second not shown not mentioned before 'Single & Double - Resonance Dispersion Panels’ ....

                Now the washers are just in this Image washers to hold down the decoupling ring to mould the artificial lether into place when glued so that it does not rincle!!!

                rgs UpperCut

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                • #38
                  Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                  With the creative tech solution that is not old in thinking, establishment of new paradigm is business critical to use some dynamat and describe it as a new look of science with technology sound of nomenclature. Leaving the validation for poor thinkers, creative build such is gold for design of not to meaningful development.

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                  • #39
                    Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                    Originally posted by UpperCut View Post
                    And again as per the above write up here a few new Images to be shown what happen after the weekend.

                    Just a raw / coarse assembly to figure out the rest of items to be ordered Etc. and I'm still waiting for the speaker chassis to arrive so here just a fitting with substitutes chasssis!

                    rgs UpperCut

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                    I cannot comment on sound quality but I do like what you have done from an aesthetic viewpoint....

                    Regards
                    Bob C.
                    NLA

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                    • #40
                      Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                      Thanks for explaining this Badman.

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                      • #41
                        Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                        Originally posted by robertcottiers View Post
                        I cannot comment on sound quality but I do like what you have done from an aesthetic viewpoint....

                        Regards
                        Bob C.
                        I agree. The leather wrap does look very nice and the color choices fit well together, too. However, maybe it is just the photo angle, but it looks like the woofer sitting in the white panel is not centered. The plane you have established where the feet are located also looks off angle when looking at from the front (assuming the white piece is the front of the unit).

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                        • #42
                          Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                          Originally posted by joshuass1467 View Post
                          I agree. The leather wrap does look very nice and the color choices fit well together, too. However, maybe it is just the photo angle, but it looks like the woofer sitting in the white panel is not centered. The plane you have established where the feet are located also looks off angle when looking at from the front (assuming the white piece is the front of the unit).
                          Hi there,

                          Thank you for your reply! If I maybe had it not as yet mentioned but the colours are White, Red, Black the colours of the New Zealand indigenize population the Maori! and which are great Artists in Tribal Arts & Carving wood, greenstone, bone and many more things just like many others around the world.

                          As I mentioned this assembly was on these Images raw / coarse and nothing was set out perfectly, but I had to do it quickly as I had visitors from a NZ Magazine and they wanted to take photos for their next issue so I toke some as well. I checked your points of remark and can ensure you that there are unwarranted.

                          Rgs UpperCut

                          PS: Just forgot to mention that the leather wrap is actually also a main part of the outer dampening arrangement just like a “Second Skin’!!! and the best part of that is the feel of natural warmth not just like a piece of dead wood or even the same type of leather strait on a piece of wood no the way the skin works (but not quiet as powerful as in the inside dampening technique) is quiet hard to explain, but this feel it gives somehow the feel when touching of something not quiet as dead material (as said very hard to explain (It is simple just like with the sounds reproduction of all my enclosures) extremely difficult to be conveyed by the printed work.

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                          • #43
                            Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                            Most come here more to learn the technical side of design. That includes math, science, and simulations. Most also enjoy a nice looking enclosure, but IMO that's always secondary to good sound.

                            Sorry.

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                            • #44
                              Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                              Originally posted by Chris Roemer View Post
                              Most come here more to learn the technical side of design. That includes math, science, and simulations. Most also enjoy a nice looking enclosure, but IMO that's always secondary to good sound.

                              Sorry.
                              Please , don’t be sorry on my account as that what you write here is 110% exactly the wrong way of thinking for a time we are living in (2016) well not only as it is from the midlevel (dark ages) times of enclosure development.
                              You mite think this is Gospel what you proclaim, but how wrong can you be!!! I guess you never will find out with such antiquated views.

                              rgs UpperCut

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                              • #45
                                Re: I.S.C.T. - 'Hearing Music The Way The Artist(s) Intended It To Be Heard'

                                Originally posted by UpperCut View Post
                                Please , don’t be sorry on my account as that what you write here is 110% exactly the wrong way of thinking for a time we are living in (2016) well not only as it is from the midlevel (dark ages) times of enclosure development.
                                You mite think this is Gospel what you proclaim, but how wrong can you be!!! I guess you never will find out with such antiquated views.

                                rgs UpperCut
                                Indeed, the ages for dancing and vitality are surely present tense with the aesthetic priority. Of the simulate and measure people who make wrong the aged methods do not apply in our art! But for with the abjective wasteful, not to live in shiney temple.

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