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  • tomzarbo
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    Something to think about...

    I've had a few larger/heavier speakers that I've taken to MWAF and if the 'friction points' are not cinched down real hard, there can be 'rubbing' ...
    For example, If you use a soft cotton sheet for a cover over the speakers, then whatever cushioning material you choose after that, all the 'jiggling' over the many miles and bumps can rub a few spots on the speakers. I had one spot that looked a bit different by the time I got home, that was the duller finish of the two, my Cello's. The Classic Tension Headaches fared better, they had a glossy finish.

    I've thought of applying a few sheets of cheap shelf liner to spots that would be likely to rub on the journey if I ever make another heavier or larger set.

    Of course, you have access to that 'expanding foam' stuff at work... You could put each speaker in a big box with a left and right bag and cut a piece of card stock roughly down the middle of the front/back to act as a separating line. Just slide the box off the top and take the left and right pieces off like a clam shell.

    Man, can we overthink things or what?

    But hey, we've gotta move... time is running out.....

    Countdown to MWAF 2017: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...=cursive&csz=1

    TomZ

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  • Sydney
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    Soooo Are they broken-in yet

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  • 4thtry
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    Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post

    I haven't seen what Bill did but I did see his "Line hoppers" at the show. Any pics of the cradles he built anywhere?



    I can and I may build some kind of case or cradle after seeing your comments and John's, you guys are making me nervous about transporting these things now.
    Kevin,

    Wow! This is quite the project! Great work, Kevin! And a very nice set of well framed pictures, too. The dramatic lines and smooth curves are impressive! Can't wait to see these at MWAF.

    My custom cradles were built by bolting two long 2x4's to a standard hardware store dolly. I then installed custom cross braces at critical points to hold the linehoppers firmly in position. Old carpeting material was streached out over the 2x4's to prevent scratches. Carpeting was stapled in areas that did not touch the linehoppers. I called them the "dollyhoppers" in keeping with my overall theme.

    My pictures are on another hard drive, so, when I get home, I will check for photos and dimensional drawings.

    Bill

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  • JavadS
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    Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post

    ​I appreciate it Sydney and will not shortcut whatever means I use to pack these and transport them. I remember seeing one member at MWAF that had a dolly completely wrapped in pipe foam, cool idea and may have to borrow that also as these are quite awkward to carry now without being able to place a hand in the woofer openings.
    Seems if you pack them well with foam in a box, then another layer of foam or crumpled heavy paper and another box, that will be indestructible, then you can strap all that down to keep it from shifting.

    I shipped the Fatboys out to MWAF that way last year and had absolutely not a scratch on them. "Box in a Box"

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  • Kevin K.
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    Originally posted by Sydney View Post
    Just cautious forethought - A lot of work went into this
    ​I appreciate it Sydney and will not shortcut whatever means I use to pack these and transport them. I remember seeing one member at MWAF that had a dolly completely wrapped in pipe foam, cool idea and may have to borrow that also as these are quite awkward to carry now without being able to place a hand in the woofer openings.

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  • Sydney
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    Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
    ,,, you guys are making me nervous about transporting these things now.
    Just cautious forethought - A lot of work went into this

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  • Kevin K.
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    Originally posted by Mike220 View Post
    Ridiculous build and thread. BRAVO! Im interested on your grain filling tips. I used some wayer based stuff before that was clear with so-so results. It filled grain and matched color but is a hair hazey. It was a white container with blue labels aqua coat i think.

    I'll have a pricey build coming up i want to get fancy with i will probably bug you with questions and stuff on how you did the design/cad stuff for this concept to turn it unto a reality.
    Thank you Sir! The only other grain filler I've tried in the past was the Behlen Pore-O-Pac (white can/blue label) and I was not happy with it at all, very hazy. The Crystalac was easy to work with and did not change the appearance of the wood once dry. Be glad to help in any way I can on the design/cad stuff, just shoot me a PM whenever you're ready.

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  • Mike220
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    Ridiculous build and thread. BRAVO! Im interested on your grain filling tips. I used some water based stuff before that was clear with so-so results. It filled grain and matched color but is a hair hazey. It was a white container with blue labels aqua coat i think.

    I'll have a pricey build coming up i want to get fancy with i will probably bug you with questions and stuff on how you did the design/cad stuff for this concept to turn it into a reality.
    Last edited by Mike220; 02-09-2017, 06:32 PM. Reason: Typos like a mofo

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  • Kevin K.
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    Originally posted by JavadS View Post
    Kevin regarding videos, I've found the average iPhone recording does quite well, especially if you play the video through some good speakers as well, you can really get a good idea of the sound signature, impact and clarity of the speaker w/o setting up any microphones, etc. The 6.5 was good, the 7 is even better, see some of my Youtube vids if you haven't already. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM7...tn5mtL2heHb0cw

    Javad
    Thanks Javad. My son's Christmas present was the IPhone 6 Plus, have noticed his takes better pictures and videos then my LG flex, much better.

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  • Kevin K.
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    Originally posted by jhollander View Post

    Could do like Bill S and the line hopper and build custom cradles, matching veneer of course...
    I haven't seen what Bill did but I did see his "Line hoppers" at the show. Any pics of the cradles he built anywhere?

    Originally posted by Sydney View Post
    I think you can appreciate why musicians spend hundreds on hard shell cases ( some with wheels ) to safely transport valued instruments that may cost thousands
    I can and I may build some kind of case or cradle after seeing your comments and John's, you guys are making me nervous about transporting these things now.

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  • Kevin K.
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    Originally posted by badman View Post
    I have to say, those look awful. The inconsistent hole depth really shows when closely examining the driver mountings.

    It's 4/1 right? No? Well then... ahem.... very cool
    The 4/1 question is going right over my head?? But I believe you are saying you like em, thanks.

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  • JavadS
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    Kevin regarding videos, I've found the average iPhone recording does quite well, especially if you play the video through some good speakers as well, you can really get a good idea of the sound signature, impact and clarity of the speaker w/o setting up any microphones, etc. The 6.5 was good, the 7 is even better, see some of my Youtube vids if you haven't already. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM7...tn5mtL2heHb0cw

    Javad

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  • Sydney
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    Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post

    I was thinking of wrapping them in 2" mattress foam. It is going to be a nerve racking drive and if somebody decides to slam on the brakes in front of me I'll have two torpedoes flying towards the front of the vehicle. I'll leave plenty of room between me and the next vehicle to give me more time to stop just in case.
    I think you can appreciate why musicians spend hundreds on hard shell cases ( some with wheels ) to safely transport valued instruments that may cost thousands

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  • jhollander
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    Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post

    I was thinking of wrapping them in 2" mattress foam. It is going to be a nerve racking drive and if somebody decides to slam on the brakes in front of me I'll have two torpedoes flying towards the front of the vehicle. I'll leave plenty of room between me and the next vehicle to give me more time to stop just in case.
    Could do like Bill S and the line hopper and build custom cradles, matching veneer of course...

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  • badman
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    I have to say, those look awful. The inconsistent hole depth really shows when closely examining the driver mountings.

    It's 4/1 right? No? Well then... ahem.... very cool

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