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  • #16
    Originally posted by JavadS View Post
    Looking good Kevin, gotta love that CNC work! So you gonna do a subwoofer off that 5th channel? ;)
    Guess if you built a bass bin you could get the 5th channel to match up to the arrays. For now, I'm planning on separate amps for the subs.
    My "No-Name" CC Speaker
    Kerry's "Silverbacks"
    Ben's Synchaeta's for Mom
    The Archers
    Rick's "db" Desktop CBT Arrays
    The Gandalf's

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    • #17
      Tom, I'll have Kole (yea, we spelled it strange) shoot the video and do my best to watch the language. The tweeter alignment to the baffle really isn't that bad, the photo this evening will help clarify. It has a cast face plate, not plastic, so not much chance of bending it. Yea, I am jumping off in the deep end. Rick's gonna have to play the role of lifeguard and throw in the buoy or else I drown. Don's papers are definitely technical, and since I made the wise decision at 18 years of age that I didn't need a college education, way above my math skills. Yes, Kole will be going to college (speakers and equipment can be sold) and he currently wants to be an Air Force Engineer/Mechanic.

      Sydney, out of respect for Rick, I will post as much as Rick allows me to. He makes his living selling audio and without his help on the technical details of this build, have no chance of pulling it off. Hope you understand.
      My "No-Name" CC Speaker
      Kerry's "Silverbacks"
      Ben's Synchaeta's for Mom
      The Archers
      Rick's "db" Desktop CBT Arrays
      The Gandalf's

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
        ... Hope you understand
        Sure...( I've conversed with Rick before )

        "Not a Speaker Designer - Not even on the Internet"
        “Pride is your greatest enemy, humility is your greatest friend.”
        "If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
          Sydney, out of respect for Rick, I will post as much as Rick allows me to. He makes his living selling audio and without his help on the technical details of this build, have no chance of pulling it off. Hope you understand.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
          Considering, the main porpoise of the forum is the learning and information share, I don't find this approach too awfully beneficial. But to each, his own, I guess.
          Curious tho, have you listened to many other large format arrays and if so, what tilted the decision towards curved arrays?
          http://www.diy-ny.com/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by r-carpenter View Post
            Considering, the main porpoise of the forum is the learning and information share, I don't find this approach too awfully beneficial. But to each, his own, I guess.
            Curious tho, have you listened to many other large format arrays and if so, what tilted the decision towards curved arrays?
            Have yet to speak with Rick about how much of the details could be shared, just assuming some of what he tells me wont be. Perhaps all of the details for this build will be shared, just not how it was arrived at, that's my hopes anyway. Don's papers are public and can be downloaded from his website. If you can understand the formulas involved, they are available. As stated, I don't understand them and this is where Rick will be helping. Think there are also some patents involved so manufacturing these for sale would be out of the question. Mine will be strictly for personal use. I believe Don and Rick both to be great guys and anyone interested in building one of these types of arrays for personal use could get assistance if they asked.

            I haven't had an opportunity to listen to any other types of arrays Roman. Will hopefully get a chance some day. From what I've read, it looks like there may be some advantages to the curved arrays and what impressed me the most is how distance from the speaker (whether you were 10 feet away or directly in front of it) did not change the apparent volume level.

            Take care,
            Kevin
            My "No-Name" CC Speaker
            Kerry's "Silverbacks"
            Ben's Synchaeta's for Mom
            The Archers
            Rick's "db" Desktop CBT Arrays
            The Gandalf's

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
              ... From what I've read, it looks like there may be some advantages to the curved arrays...
              Curving eliminates the need for applying delay.

              "Not a Speaker Designer - Not even on the Internet"
              “Pride is your greatest enemy, humility is your greatest friend.”
              "If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

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              • #22
                Looking great! Cool project!

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                • #23
                  Goodonya' following!
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                  • #24
                    That's awesome and subscribed...

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                    • #25
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                      Here is that picture promised. It's hard to get a good shot. Looks worse than it is because I set the openings up to allow for primer and paint build up. It really is minimal, like less than a "post it" thickness.

                      Also mounted these in a flat baffle and can say I'm not a fan of three hole mounts, they don't seem to apply the pressure evenly.
                      My "No-Name" CC Speaker
                      Kerry's "Silverbacks"
                      Ben's Synchaeta's for Mom
                      The Archers
                      Rick's "db" Desktop CBT Arrays
                      The Gandalf's

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                      • #26
                        You caught me off guard here - I was thinking of a segmented panel. If you can make it work with all of the drivers properly seated I'll be impressed! Use the DATS rub and buzz test to make sure each driver is working as it should once all are installed.

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                        • #27
                          Will do Rick!
                          My "No-Name" CC Speaker
                          Kerry's "Silverbacks"
                          Ben's Synchaeta's for Mom
                          The Archers
                          Rick's "db" Desktop CBT Arrays
                          The Gandalf's

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Kevin K. View Post
                            Thanks guys.

                            If I had to cut all of these holes in the baffles with a hand router, that might change from love to hate real fast. It still seemed like it took forever even on the CNC. Can't imagine doing it by hand but know it can be. There are lots of shops where this kind of work could be sub'd out and the pricing gets more and more reasonable all the time.

                            Take care,
                            Kevin
                            WIMP !

                            These were all cut by hand.

                            http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...clones-sort-of

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rhubarb9999 View Post

                              WIMP !

                              These were all cut by hand.

                              http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...clones-sort-of
                              Nice!! Have you started treatments for carpal tunnel yet?

                              Ever get around to applying the shading on the arrays?
                              My "No-Name" CC Speaker
                              Kerry's "Silverbacks"
                              Ben's Synchaeta's for Mom
                              The Archers
                              Rick's "db" Desktop CBT Arrays
                              The Gandalf's

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by r-carpenter View Post
                                Considering, the main porpoise of the forum is the learning and information share, I don't find this approach too awfully beneficial. But to each, his own, I guess.
                                Curious tho, have you listened to many other large format arrays and if so, what tilted the decision towards curved arrays?

                                Roman,

                                I appreciate your opinion and have taken time to think out a honest response. Yes, the forum is geared towards sharing information and helping other builders learn; however, I don't think that anyone should feel obligated to give out free advice (that includes hobbyists or those in the audio business like myself). I would post more but simply don't have the time and there are many others who are fully qualified to answer the majority of questions here.

                                When I started out as a DIY I first built a kit and then started experimenting with my own designs. Once the forums became available (Madisound primarily) it was much easier to share information and get input but I never expected help just because someone more experienced than I was posting. In the process of building different designs I made many mistakes but learning from them was a valuable experience.

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