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  • Is there a better deal in a tweeter under $15.00??

    Peerless by Tymphany BC25SC06-04 1" Textile Dome TweeterSmooth-sounding compact soft dome tweeter with high output and response past 20 kHz. Neodymium motor, heatsink fins, and round faceplate. .


    I can not believe these are so low priced now. I have a pair, got them out again just to listen, and wow, pretty clean, smooth and clear. And efficient.

    Does anything beat these at this price??

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    They are a value leader, a popular driver for good reason.

    For a couple more bucks you can get it mounted in a larger waveguide:
    Dayton Audio ND25FW-4 1" Soft Dome Neodymium Tweeter with Waveguide 4 OhmThe Dayton Audio ND25FW-4 tweeter features a unique integrated round waveguide faceplate that provides a controlled directivity transition at high frequencies, reducing the effect of room reflections on the speaker's tonal balance. Unlike conventional flat-faceplate dome tweeters whose directivity does not match the midwoofer driver near the crossover frequency, the ND25FW-4's waveguide is curved to maintain consistent directivity at the transition. The waveguide also acts as a low-compression horn, lowering distortion.Waveguide-loaded dome tweeters are embraced within the industry for providing directivity control and mild horn loading without the negative effects of compression loading such as impulse smear and throat distortion where high levels are not needed. The waveguide profile used in the ND25FW-4 provides a minimum dispersion angle of about 90 degrees, and maintains directivity control to about 2,000 Hz, but the round waveguide will install easily into the same 104 mm standard tweeter cutout used commonly by dome tweeters with larger ferrite motors.Specifications: • Power handling: 20 watts RMS/40 watts max • VCdia: 1" • Le: 0.04 mH • Impedance: 4 ohms • Re: 3.2 ohms • Frequency response: 2,500-20,000 Hz • Fs: 1350 Hz • SPL: 91 dB 1W/1m • Dimensions: Overall diameter: 4.09", Cutout diameter: 2.875", Depth: 1.57".


    For higher crossover points the small format XT25 is a great value as well:
    Peerless by Tymphany XT25SC90-04 1" Dual Ring Radiator TweeterThe smaller-sized Tymphany XT25SC90-04 features a patented dual concentric diaphragm and a unique waveguide center plug that provide an excellent on- and off-axis response. The XT tweeters are acclaimed for their very natural sound with an extremely smooth frequency response extending well beyond the human hearing range.


    I'm not deaf, I'm just not listening!

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    • #3
      Yeah, the BC25SC06 at $10 a pop ($9 ea. if you buy in quantity)!

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        Nd16
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        • #5
          I think maybe they are being clearanced out without the clearance tag?

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          Just a thought. I dunno, I guess the times I have used/heard the BC25TG15 makes it well worth the couple dollar upcharge over the BC25SC - YMMV.
          Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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          • #6
            The more expensive model is a newer version of the tweeter with even higher sensitivity. I know of a competitor that shows a similar difference in cost between these models, with neither listed as sale or clearance.
            I'm not deaf, I'm just not listening!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
              I think maybe they are being clearanced out without the clearance tag?

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              Just a thought. I dunno, I guess the times I have used/heard the BC25TG15 makes it well worth the couple dollar upcharge over the BC25SC - YMMV.


              Was it much different sounding? I have never heard it honestly.

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              • #8
                Got a couple of these HiVi K1 tweeters for $4.76 USD. each.

                Low FS, but you have to cross them at greater than 2500 Hz.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Audion View Post
                  Got a couple of these HiVi K1 tweeters for $4.76 USD. each.

                  Low FS, but you have to cross them at greater than 2500 Hz.

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                  Shawn
                  I found crossing those K1 across the bench and into the garbage can to be about right ;-)
                  Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                  • #10
                    I found the HiVi K1's to be harsh to my ear. YMMV.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post

                      I found crossing those K1 across the bench and into the garbage can to be about right ;-)

                      I thought that Zaph tested them, and said that they weren't bad?

                      I'll try 'em out... see what happens.

                      Shawn

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Audion View Post


                        I thought that Zaph tested them, and said that they weren't bad?

                        I'll try 'em out... see what happens.

                        Shawn
                        I purchased a pair years ago based solely on Zaph's tweeter comparison page review. Back then they were 8 bucks ea. Mine found the same home as Johnny's. They measured bad and sounded even worst.
                        Sometimes a cigar is just a Cuban with salami and mustard.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Audion View Post


                          I thought that Zaph tested them, and said that they weren't bad?

                          I'll try 'em out... see what happens.

                          Shawn
                          I'd give em a shot. I have never played with them, but they seem to be a tough customer.

                          Zaph's measurements were/are indespensable. His evaluation of the drivers on the other hand were disagreable and extremely polarized, save on the best.

                          Does not take away what he did for the DIY community - he gave everyone driver data when measurement equipment and techniques were *just* out of reach for the DIY-er.

                          So I would carry on. A few bad expirences does not mean it will not work for you.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mzisserson View Post

                            I'd give em a shot. I have never played with them, but they seem to be a tough customer.

                            Zaph's measurements were/are indespensable. His evaluation of the drivers on the other hand were disagreable and extremely polarized, save on the best.

                            Does not take away what he did for the DIY community - he gave everyone driver data when measurement equipment and techniques were *just* out of reach for the DIY-er.

                            So I would carry on. A few bad expirences does not mean it will not work for you.
                            Thanks for that. This is an interesting discussion about these tweets. To be honest, for the price, and the apparent build quality I'm a bit excited to see what I can get out of them.
                            We live in a world wherein some really sublime products are in reach even for the DIY'er. Low distortion is often the stated goal.
                            However, many people find systems with low distortion to be "cold" sounding, and many folks even like amps and vinyl media which add distortion.
                            As such, there are many paradoxes. I think that blind tests involving many people are the only way to really get an honest opinion. Now, I'm not saying that the opinions here are wrong, mind you.

                            I have some XT25's, and Tymphany-bc25sc55-04's and a couple of Seas 27TDC 's on hand. As I build up some things, I'll get a better idea. Maybe I'll report back here.
                            In this case, I want to find out how good a speaker that I can build using inexpensive parts.

                            ​Shawn

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Audion View Post

                              Thanks for that. This is an interesting discussion about these tweets. To be honest, for the price, and the apparent build quality I'm a bit excited to see what I can get out of them.
                              We live in a world wherein some really sublime products are in reach even for the DIY'er. Low distortion is often the stated goal.
                              However, many people find systems with low distortion to be "cold" sounding, and many folks even like amps and vinyl media which add distortion.
                              As such, there are many paradoxes. I think that blind tests involving many people are the only way to really get an honest opinion. Now, I'm not saying that the opinions here are wrong, mind you.

                              I have some XT25's, and Tymphany-bc25sc55-04's and a couple of Seas 27TDC 'son hand. As I build up some things, I'll get a better idea. Maybe I'll report back here.
                              In this case, I want to find out how good a speaker that I can build using inexpensive parts.

                              ​Shawn

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                              Going off on your tangent about distortion etc.
                              I have at times, found myself (cough cough) actually preferring some cheaper, not so great speakers I own, over the much better ones.

                              It is not that I can not tell the just okay from the really good,but I have at times with the lesser speakers found myself more "involved" with just listening to the music, and even with higher distortion etc, it seems in some ways to make it more enjoyable.
                              Less accurate for SURE, but just more listenable.

                              Oddly enough a lot of older classic rock stuff sounds "Better" on my cheaper speakers that are not highly accurate.

                              My really great recordings, tend to be more enjoyable on the better speakers though.

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