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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kornbread View Post

    Yes, always wondered what was in the box. IMO, they sounded wonderful on the Spectral/MIT 2c3d system driving the Avalon Acoustics whether it was the digital front end, or Merrill's Stable Table. The same system with the Von Schweikert vr4's wasn't as impressive.
    When I purchased my first spectral preamp they tossed in the MIT cables. Just not a fan, they didn't sound bad, just not great. I think you can do a lot better for a lot less money. My two favorite cables I am using now are really high dollar cables. One cost $ 1.50 a foot and the other I splurged on are $ 9.00 a meter.
    craigk

    " Voicing is often the term used for band aids to cover for initial design/planning errors " - Pallas

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    • #17
      Originally posted by craigk View Post

      When I purchased my first spectral preamp they tossed in the MIT cables. Just not a fan, they didn't sound bad, just not great. I think you can do a lot better for a lot less money. My two favorite cables I am using now are really high dollar cables. One cost $ 1.50 a foot and the other I splurged on are $ 9.00 a meter.
      Call in synergy, or whatever, it was some of the best sound I've heard, and my ears were a lot younger back then. Now I'm not so sure about my hearing.

      Most of my stuff is plumbed with 16gauge solid core bell wire from the local hardware store. Other than that, my diy cat5 braid, and several feet of the cheaper Audioquest 2+ and 4+ (came with a great deal on a pair of speakers), most everything else is hd lampcord.

      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...khanspires-but
      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...pico-neo-build
      http://techtalk.parts-express.com/fo...ensation-build

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      • #18
        A box full of bullsh!t - pretty typical of the high end world, amps, preamps, transports, speakers, and advocates.
        Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
          A box full of bullsh!t - pretty typical of the high end world, amps, preamps, transports, speakers, and advocates.
          Troll away. Still waiting to hear those earth shattering new designs with world class leading baffle geometry. How'that coming ?
          craigk

          " Voicing is often the term used for band aids to cover for initial design/planning errors " - Pallas

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          • #20
            What transformers are you using in your CD player?
            Guess xmax's age.

            My guess: 15. His grammar is passable. His trolling is good.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by xmax View Post
              What transformers are you using in your CD player?
              I have some make them for me here in the States. Was getting them out of Europe and they became to expensive, new VAT tax last year.
              craigk

              " Voicing is often the term used for band aids to cover for initial design/planning errors " - Pallas

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              • #22
                Originally posted by johnnyrichards View Post
                A box full of bullsh!t - pretty typical of the high end world, amps, preamps, transports, speakers, and advocates.
                so BASICALLY , what your saying is your Sounddesign 8 track counsel ROCKS!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cap View Post

                  so BASICALLY , what your saying is your Sounddesign 8 track counsel ROCKS!

                  Huh?
                  Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by craigk View Post

                    I have some make them for me here in the States. Was getting them out of Europe and they became to expensive, new VAT tax last year.

                    You are using them on the AES output?
                    Guess xmax's age.

                    My guess: 15. His grammar is passable. His trolling is good.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by xmax View Post


                      You are using them on the AES output?
                      You can't give a general answer, depends on machine and the DAC. The best use of a transformer is on a unit with a DAC that has a high voltage out. Other wise you have to use something active to bump voltage up, or go with a 2:1 or 3:1 transformer which my supplier doesn't make.
                      Last edited by craigk; 04-06-2018, 09:03 PM.
                      craigk

                      " Voicing is often the term used for band aids to cover for initial design/planning errors " - Pallas

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                      • #26
                        I did an analysis of these cables actually. Basically it's a series of LCR filters which are tuned to the resonances of Diana Krall's vocal cords. Entry level just notches out the fundamental - if you spend more it notches out higher and higher harmonics.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by craigk View Post

                          When I purchased my first spectral preamp they tossed in the MIT cables. Just not a fan, they didn't sound bad, just not great. I think you can do a lot better for a lot less money. My two favorite cables I am using now are really high dollar cables. One cost $ 1.50 a foot and the other I splurged on are $ 9.00 a meter.

                          I follow Nelson Pass’s rule. “Your speaker cable should not cost more than your amplifier”

                          The use of MIT cable with Spectral stuff that the Spectral stuff is super high bandwidth and you really want to RF noise out. The MIT stuff does that pretty well as well as paying attention to RF termination.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fdieck View Post


                            I follow Nelson Pass’s rule. “Your speaker cable should not cost more than your amplifier”

                            The use of MIT cable with Spectral stuff that the Spectral stuff is super high bandwidth and you really want to RF noise out. The MIT stuff does that pretty well as well as paying attention to RF termination.
                            I really like the cables I am using now. I painted the case with an RF absorbing paint. I will listen to them a little longer and if I still like them I will post what they are. These are DIY cables that anyone can afford.

                            Something to also consider are the owners of Wilson Audio , MIT and Spectral are all very good friends.
                            Last edited by craigk; 04-06-2018, 09:02 PM.
                            craigk

                            " Voicing is often the term used for band aids to cover for initial design/planning errors " - Pallas

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by civit View Post
                              I did an analysis of these cables actually. Basically it's a series of LCR filters which are tuned to the resonances of Diana Krall's vocal cords. Entry level just notches out the fundamental - if you spend more it notches out higher and higher harmonics.
                              That actually describes "high end audio" in a nutshell.
                              Don't listen to me - I have not sold any $150,000 speakers.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by craigk View Post

                                I have some make them for me here in the States. Was getting them out of Europe and they became to expensive, new VAT tax last year.
                                Is this why some European Union manufactures won't ship outside of EU?

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